Nerve Agent Was On Front Door Of House.

a reply to: alldaylong

You need some breadcrumbs or it's just idle pondering without substance.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: alldaylong

You need some breadcrumbs or it's just idle pondering without substance.

Yeah. Whatever.

Detective Sergeant Bailey

correction .

The first police officer to respond to Sergei and Yulia Skripal in Salisbury has been released from hospital. Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey was exposed to the Novichok nerve agent as he rushed to help the pair.

Has this been looked at properly

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Crazy. The questions keep piling up.

One thing is for certain, we dispelled numerous Russian officials from our countries in order to punish a country that has yet to be proven guilty.

That's usually the way when it's a stitch up. I have been wondering why they expelled them before they got proof it was Russia. The whole thing stinks to the high heavens...

originally posted by: Indrasweb
I seem to recall it's possible the "nerve agent" is actually two components. One is on "......" (door, car, wherever) and the second is administered at another location. Only a person exposed to the combined components is affected. Minimises fallout and increases difficulty in investigating.

The two components had to be together, otherwise the officef would not have succumbed to the toxin without touching both substances...

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SPY PROBE WIDENS Salisbury probe extends to town ‘where poisoned cop Nick Bailey lived’… raising fears he brought nerve agent Novichok home with him Military was spotted at Alderholt today, just a day after crews wearing chemical suits descended on Gillingham

THE Salisbury nerve agent probe has widened to the home of poisoned cop Nick Bailey - raising fears he may have brought the deadly chemical home with him. Troops swooped on sleepy Alderholt, Dorset, this morning, where the Wiltshire Police Detective Sergeant, who is currently in hospital, lives.

The military have descended on Alderholt in Dorset where hero cop Nick Bailey lives Officers are concerned DS Bailey may have gone home after coming into contact with nerve agent Novichok after he was first on the scene at the Salisbury poisoning. A source told The Mail Online: "I understand the investigation is concerned about cross contamination at DS Bailey's address, which suggests he'd gone home." DS Bailey was rushed to hospital after the attack that left ex-spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia fighting for life. He was initially in intensive care but is now conscious and talking.

The military were also seen bagging up items A group of children were escorted through the area by two police officers as they left school and locals have been warned the road would be closed. Later a car was removed by an army truck near the Larkhill military camp near Salisbury. It comes just a day after heavily equipped teams descended on Gillingham to recover a car involved in the investigation. Dorset and Wiltshire Fire and Rescue Service crews today confirmed they were at the scene in Alderholt, with their presence related to the Salisbury poisonings.

Same day as PM visit , also under-reported -March 15th . They call him 'hero cop' but is there an a/c of his exact movements ? It's THOUGHT he went home ? They took THIS LONG to get to his house ? They dont' know what he did or where he went AFTER THIS HAPPENED ? After Gillingham , asWELL? ? This and that pic means they've completely messed up this investigation , as in totally bodged it , by the looks .
Have a look again he's possibly your guy you want

originally posted by: solarone
Nothing about this story makes sense. How does one get exposed to a nerve agent at home, go out for a spot of lunch then fall into a catatonic state hours later?

Not buying the official line at all.

You only need a drop the size of a pinhead of military strength stuff to kill someone and that's within minutes. You could disguise it in a box of chocolate or other delicacy. There are some types of pill which actually contain micropellets that slowly dissolve over a few hours as they go through the digestive system. Then those micropellets could be sprinkled onto cookies or a box of chocolate.

Nerve agent type chemicals come in the form of Alzheimers medication. The same kind of inhibitors that require Atropine to neutralize. Once in the body, those chemicals would also be released in body sweat and onto anything that they touched, such as door handles.

Pretty adorable comments on this thread

First it were flowers, than it was the suitcase of the daughter, now it the front door, what is it tomorrow?
Putin in a UFO maybe, spraying that stuff?

a reply to: djz3ro

Um.. yeah, that's obvious.

That's why I said one component in one location and then the second in another. That's both together at the target location, and there's your reaction. Substance is then active and contaminates only the target (or would have if the copper hadn't then exposed himself to the combined toxin).

As I said, minimises the likelihood of collateral damage and makes it more difficult to investigate.

Crikey People!

It IS possible for a thing called... oh I don't know... transference!

Even Litvinenko left a trail of his poison within the few days after exposure.

Germs and viruses can be, in optimal conditions be transferred from surface to surface, towards a point where there;s nothing left to transfer.

Some Poisons act the same way, once again, optimal conditions and so on.

THe victimes had at least two Guinea piggs at home. These were two animals from the UK Chemical factory not to far away from where they lived. Guess what factory that is?

One was a cat...... THe OTHER WAS A ................

Have any mail/postmen gone off work ill recently? Who else would have to go to anybody's front door, other than a postman and also on a daily basis, if the person receives a lot of mail.............Sounds like a load of gumph to me....

originally posted by: davethebear
Have any mail/postmen gone off work ill recently? Who else would have to go to anybody's front door, other than a postman and also on a daily basis, if the person receives a lot of mail.............Sounds like a load of gumph to me....

Usually houses in the UK have a mailflap in the front door. There's no need to put a hand on the door. Same goes for parcel delivery, they knock.

Like I said, transference. Pop your poison on the door knob, and those who are opening and closing the door will have it on them, and then transfer bits to every place they touch, and so on and so forth.

Who knows where the victims were exposed to the agent. The victims themselves had to touch the door so very well could have contaminated the door themselves rather easily when they left or entered the apartment or both. This discovery does not mean that the exposure occurred at the apartment or that the door was the method of delivery.

The support for Putin is strong in this thread, almost like it is loyalty.

a reply to: alldaylong

So I think based on your OP something really has to be cleared up because the implication I get from your OP that this somehow questions the official narrative of what is believed to have happened.

In your OP you state that:

Hang on. So who else has touched this door, without any ill effects having taken place.

This doesn't sound right.

Well actually for those of us who have been following this story since it broke this does sound right, in fact this is pretty much just confirming what was already pretty much known that Skripal was poisoned in or around his home. It has been reported that Detective Sargent Bailey who was also exposed to the nerve agent was exposed after he was sent round to the Skripal home just hours after Skripal was sent to hospital.

According to The Tellegraph.

Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who is being treated in hospital, was made seriously ill after being sent to Colonel Skripal’s house in Salisbury.

Det Sgt Bailey was one of the first police officers to attend the house in a cul-de-sac a few hours after Col Skripal and his daughter Yulia collapsed in Salisbury town centre.

In fact there was something like 20 individuals who were seen in hospital after possible exposure to the nerve toxin.

I highlight this only to illustrate that it is wrong to say this "does not sound right", in fact this is pretty much exactly what we would expect. It does not prove any kind of conspiracy or even a inconsistency in the current official narrative. I would also point out that if this poison was on the door on the 4th of March then really we shouldn't expect more people to have been exposed, its not like strangers go around just trying random door handles to peoples homes in the middle of the day.

The exact timeline of events and what exactly happened is still not fully known however with this news we can now say that the events that have caused this massive drama between the UK and Russia started at the front door of Skripal's home. From what I have been reading this morning it seems like the current hypothesis is that the agent may have either been put on the door to expose Skripal when he was locking his door or another method of delivery was used whilst he was answering his door, the later seems less likely to me

a reply to: alldaylong

That is most peculiar.

I wonder if the postman, milkman, paper delivery people and other potential visitors to the front door of Skripal's abode, have been effected by the toxin?

I also wonder why the front door? Why not something more personal, like the bed or mattress, or the toilet seat? Are you telling me that whomever killed him, had no way to penetrate the perimeter defences of an otherwise normal dwelling place? Come ON! This is not even how a determined amateur would go about a nerve agent attack!

a reply to: TrueBrit


The fact that they are saying it was "smeared" suggests that it was not airborne and hence physical contact with the smeared surface was required as a transmission vector.

If it was smeared on the door handle, keyhole or both then the postman, milkman, paper delivery boy/girl would have no reason to touch either, would they? You would only touch either to gain access to the house, ie if you had a key.

Yes, they could have put it on the mattress (though likely that it would take longer for Mr S to come into contact with it rather than the front door method) but, of course, to smear that or the loo seat would require the miscreant to actually get inside the house. Of course any operative worth their salt could no doubt have effected entry but why take the extra risk and bother when the doorhandle would be the first and most obvious point of contact and the simplest option?

I don't think that you have thought it through in your rush to pour scorn on the official story in pursuit of your rather obvious agenda.

So he left home (contact with a state of the art Bio weapon)
went for a meal, left Then got sick!?!?
Why did it take so long?
did they put a massive amount on the door.
as they then found it ALL over the place!
and DID he die?

NOT a good way to assassinate some one.
Great for a False flag!