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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: DogStarIn1066
But their gunz make them feel all safe and warm.
originally posted by: network dude
www.nytimes.com...
The writing below the above picture:
A rifle from the 18th century, when the Second Amendment was written, and an assault rifle of today. Credit Top, MPI, via Getty Images, bottom, Joe Raedle/Getty Images .
Here is my first "Assault Rifle" I purchased"
Sure it's only a .22LR, but the lead is the same size as the scary Black rifle above, and it shoots the same way, "semi automatic", it even has multiple rounds. I can buy Ruger's version of the same rifle and get a 100 shot magazine for it.
But the big picture is at this point in the discussion, there just is no excuse for calling a semi-automatic weapon an 'assault weapon'. there is enough information available, people have explained this over and over again. It's pushing an agenda at best, being stupid like a sack of hammers, at worst.
This:
Is and M249 also known as a SAW. It is fully automatic, and is in fact an assault weapon. It is used by our military to use in forward assaults.
Ignorance at this point can't be blamed on anything other than lack of intelligence.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Irishhaf
I'd say its the modability of the gun. The fact that you can add or remove parts like hand grips, pistol grips, tactical sights, tactical flashlights. Now that I've said this, someone is going to point out the M1 and how you can just modify it to be an M16 like I wouldn't know this fact, but I don't see too many people converting their M16's into old fashioned wood stock M1's. Its more the other way around.
Also, you don't really need all those tactical adaptions to go hunting. Sure they can't hurt to have them, but I see it more like taking a bazooka to go deer hunting. It's overkill. If you can't drop your target with a single shot from a bolt action rifle then you need some practice on your aim. Most hunters sit in a tree stand and wait for their prey to pass anyways. But on the other hand, those adaptations sure do make it easier to operate the gun in a chaotic situation such as a firefight.
That's just the way I see things. I really don't even want to totally ban assault rifles anyways. They look cool as # and are fun to shoot for target practice. I just want more comprehensive background checks on purchases, possibly a national database tracking serial numbers, and mandatory certification classes for gun training and storage for all buyers of guns that has to be maintained and updated. Is this going to stop all gun crime? Nope, but at least its a start instead of pretending like all these shootings are just the sacrifice that is necessary to have a gun culture.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Agree with you
I get lumped in with the lemmings on Twitter and a #in geezer with an opinion
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: Krazysh0t
My Mossberg 500 is modable. I have a bright as # light on it. Ban those too?
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t
repealing the 2nd is not reasonable gun control measures
adding security to schools is
Who said anything about repealing the 2nd?[/q
originally posted by: DogStarIn1066
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: Krazysh0t
My Mossberg 500 is modable. I have a bright as # light on it. Ban those too?
If you are going to use a firearm for defense, why the heck are you putting a light on it?
Yeah, you see that a lot in Ranger gear.
By the way, I have 2 500's, and they are terrific.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Agree with you
I get lumped in with the lemmings on Twitter and a #in geezer with an opinion
Yeah because you didn't just say on the previous page that nobody was saying repeal the 2nd. Oh wait, yes you did.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Agree with you
I get lumped in with the lemmings on Twitter and a #in geezer with an opinion
Yeah because you didn't just say on the previous page that nobody was saying repeal the 2nd. Oh wait, yes you did.
I'm meant in this thread where I am having a conversation.
That # was posted after my comment.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: face23785
Of course.
And there are lots of people that think we should be able to own #ing rocket launchers.
There are people that like to get # on and bang midgets.
If it can be an opinion or a thought someone has it
originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: network dude
these "marches" are getting out of control...
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: DogStarIn1066
originally posted by: Perfectenemy
a reply to: DogStarIn1066
Alright then the kids should start fighting against obesity and deaths caused by don't text and driving as well. That kills way more people in the US daily then any mass shooting event and the numbers are on the rise. Repeal the Second Amendment is trending so i guess they are after all your guns. I'm not an american but i support the right to bear arms. Repealing the Second Amendment creates a precedence and who really believes it just stops there.
Good points.
Kids are doing things about the questions you posed. One thing at a time.
I put a ballistic pad in my 15 year old sons back pack, and told him if the shooting starts to run.
This is horrible. My son goes to shcool with more armor on Then I wore into battle during the first gulf war. Are you not seeing that this is maddness?
Just telling him to run is not wise. Running can you killed, depending on the circumstances. In an active shooter situation, you try to get out if you can. If there's no clear path you shelter in place. Barricade doors and windows if you can, put as many walls and other barriers between you and the shooter as you can and get out of sight. Attack as a last resort.
What's madness is that it's perfectly okay to have strong security measures in a bunch of other places we take our kids like banks, airports etc, but somehow having it in schools is considered madness.