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originally posted by: Vector99
please detail how an individual can. do they shout from the roofs?
really? REALLY?
And I prefer a system based on merit, not popularity.
Voting is all about popularity.
How many times have you voted 3rd party candidates based on principle alone? I'll guess never.
Sorry you cant get over your nit picking over a dumb article and that isnt what the thread is about. You like to make things about how you are right on everything and everyone else is wrong.
The thread is left up to interpretation. I didnt tell anyone to think a certain way.
Funny how you think everything right leaning is click bait and left sources are fact
Attend campaign events, call the candidate's office, submit an op-ed, take out advertising, etc, etc. ad nauseum.
Who determines the merit?
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
a reply to: intrptr
Like a cop has never done anything good, right?
originally posted by: Vector99
That just doesn't work. You need money plain and simple.
The people that earned it.
If you vote for a party rather than a person on a regular basis, I have the tendency to believe you will vote party over beliefs in a close race. I very well could be wrong, but I see that happening rarely. If I'm wrong, my apologies.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WarPig1939
Sorry you cant get over your nit picking over a dumb article and that isnt what the thread is about. You like to make things about how you are right on everything and everyone else is wrong.
I see you are new to ATS, so let me clue you in on some things. My "nitpicking" is par the course for these forums as we don't take things at face value like you are clearly desiring.
THAT IS A LIE. I NEVER DESIRED THAT. Now are trying to lie about what my intent was.
The thread is left up to interpretation. I didnt tell anyone to think a certain way.
No. Your thread is reporting a lie. There is no interpretation to it at all. Infowars assigned a thought process to this man without him actually saying he believed that and YOU are believing it without question. There is no interpretation about it. You either read the source honestly or you don't. You appear to not be interested in reading the source honestly and are willing to believe Infowars' words based on face value.
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The thread reporting was based off of interest I had. Your opinion is your own. I read the story from the source and I agree with it. Not off of face value like you assume. To me it isn't a joke. Infowars was a side source. I went to the twitter page to see the video myself.
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Funny how you think everything right leaning is click bait and left sources are fact
I never said that nor do I think that. Seriously, are you incapable of not making this thread about me? It's funny how you accuse me of taking the thread off topic (though I'm literally the only one in the thread who appears to want to talk about the text in the article, everyone else is talking about trusting cops or some nonsense) yet you keep carrying the thread offtopic by talking about me. Hypocrite much?
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: CharlesT
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: CharlesT
a reply to: intrptr
Most people refuse to believe this but cops are not your friend...
Then what?
Kill them where you find them?
You want to go there?
WTF are you talking about?!
Just what I said. A cop is a cop is a cop. they are a cop 24/7.
Edit: I said nothing about killing cops. You need to back up on that ??
Are we talking about the USA?
lol.
You are the one that brought this whole thing up not me so who is the hypocrite?
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
You need money to go to a local event or write an op-ed? Cut the bull.
Who determines what is meritous?
I find the Libertarian Party most closely aligns with my political beliefs but I demonstrated that when I don't agree with them I would vote for an ATS member over their Presidential candidate. I'm not a blind lever-puller for anyone.
originally posted by: Vector99
No, you need money to gain recognition to know who you are, let's cut the real bull.
Typically it would be a structured environment with oversight, maybe requiring some qualifications. Current qualification requirements? Be 25.
...but we HAD to pick one. That is pretty common on the local basis too.
I was specifically referring to citizen participation in the vetting process which you asked me how they accomplished and then retorted you 'need money'. Your slewing all over the place.
Nice and super vague. Let me know when you develop a model that works better than elections.
It's an election, you don't have to do anything.
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Vector99
It is bad because of MSM influence. The easily influenced will not look into policies, they will parrot what they see. And vote that way.
But better to have unelected persons potentially appointed to office by someone you don't agree with politically or philosophically?
I'll take my chances with elections.
I didn't say that at all now did I.
Elections are influenced by money, and typically work out.
I'd rather see someone with views that make change, real change in the paradigm. No, trump isn't that guy, he's too narcissistic for that.
However, locally, I also know I'm screwed.
I'm not cared about regardless, point in case the millions/billions spent on CAMPAIGNING.
WTF does a campaingn do for ME.
Short answer, nothing.
The money I'm going to see in relief with that Trump tax cut is on par with just giving me back what I lost with Obama.
I sold my business because of Obama. I won't restart it because of Trump. I was a niche market, and growing beyond 50 employees on a small business still isn't worth it, so I'll stick with refrigeration and make $40 an hour and let the boss worry about it.
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Vector99
It is bad because of MSM influence. The easily influenced will not look into policies, they will parrot what they see. And vote that way.
But better to have unelected persons potentially appointed to office by someone you don't agree with politically or philosophically?
I'll take my chances with elections.
I didn't say that at all now did I.
Elections are influenced by money, and typically work out.
I'd rather see someone with views that make change, real change in the paradigm. No, trump isn't that guy, he's too narcissistic for that.
However, locally, I also know I'm screwed.
I'm not cared about regardless, point in case the millions/billions spent on CAMPAIGNING.
WTF does a campaingn do for ME.
Short answer, nothing.
The money I'm going to see in relief with that Trump tax cut is on par with just giving me back what I lost with Obama.
I sold my business because of Obama. I won't restart it because of Trump. I was a niche market, and growing beyond 50 employees on a small business still isn't worth it, so I'll stick with refrigeration and make $40 an hour and let the boss worry about it.
In another thread you said you were in High school. Tell me about this business.?
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I was specifically referring to citizen participation in the vetting process which you asked me how they accomplished and then retorted you 'need money'. Your slewing all over the place.
Again, explain to me how one does it with no money?
How do you become someone out of a hundred-thousand?
Just show up to town halls and say stuff? Wow, you might get 20 voters.
How do you get known without money?
Nice and super vague. Let me know when you develop a model that works better than elections.
I don't have a better option. I do however, have the knowledge to know that elections are paid for. You don't win without financing. (except in extremely rare cases)
It's an election, you don't have to do anything.
and I didn't federally. Locally I voted on 2 props, won one lost one.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I was specifically referring to citizen participation in the vetting process which you asked me how they accomplished and then retorted you 'need money'. Your slewing all over the place.
Again, explain to me how one does it with no money?
How do you become someone out of a hundred-thousand?
Just show up to town halls and say stuff? Wow, you might get 20 voters.
How do you get known without money?
Nice and super vague. Let me know when you develop a model that works better than elections.
I don't have a better option. I do however, have the knowledge to know that elections are paid for. You don't win without financing. (except in extremely rare cases)
It's an election, you don't have to do anything.
and I didn't federally. Locally I voted on 2 props, won one lost one.
I'm starting to think maybe you don't understand what "vetting" means.
originally posted by: Vector99
Again, explain to me how one does it with no money?
Just show up to town halls and say stuff?
I don't have a better option. I do however, have the knowledge to know that elections are paid for. You don't win without financing. (except in extremely rare cases)
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
I was specifically referring to citizen participation in the vetting process which you asked me how they accomplished and then retorted you 'need money'. Your slewing all over the place.
Again, explain to me how one does it with no money?
How do you become someone out of a hundred-thousand?
Just show up to town halls and say stuff? Wow, you might get 20 voters.
How do you get known without money?
Nice and super vague. Let me know when you develop a model that works better than elections.
I don't have a better option. I do however, have the knowledge to know that elections are paid for. You don't win without financing. (except in extremely rare cases)
It's an election, you don't have to do anything.
and I didn't federally. Locally I voted on 2 props, won one lost one.
I'm starting to think maybe you don't understand what "vetting" means.
Are candidates vetted by the party or the people?