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originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Wardaddy454
Yes
Kind of does a disservice to the victims when they are a stat for "school shootings", and not victims of a man in need of mental help and that topic as a whole.
Seriously?
The guy that did it was in his 50's.
One girl got shot and died, others got raped.
Yea let's not consider that a school shooting because only one died.
Wow.
You know that's not how I meant it. But because he used a gun and it happened at a school, you won't look at it as anything but. He was clearly mentally ill, and should have been evaluated long before this happened.
It was a goddamn school shooting,
See my edit
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vector99
Of all people? When it comes to who gets assigned to what, I don’t know anything that doesn’t pertain to my agency and where I live. Anything that falls outside of those two things is an opinion.
I know that my agency SROs aren’t all overweight dudes waiting on a pension. I know that the SRO assigned to my kids’ school fits the description WarDaddy gave far better than the one you did.
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Wardaddy454
Yes
Kind of does a disservice to the victims when they are a stat for "school shootings", and not victims of a man in need of mental help and that topic as a whole.
Seriously?
The guy that did it was in his 50's.
One girl got shot and died, others got raped.
Yea let's not consider that a school shooting because only one died.
Wow.
You know that's not how I meant it. But because he used a gun and it happened at a school, you won't look at it as anything but. He was clearly mentally ill, and should have been evaluated long before this happened.
It was a goddamn school shooting,
See my edit
Read it, mental health evaluations wouldn't have worked in such a situation unless he was reported. Up there it was as backwoods as you can get, even if he was crazy his nearest neighbors were an acre away, and the guy had guns...lots.
He lost his shlt, and went into a school.
THAT is my point, it's too damn easy to get into a school, and there isn't an effective force present in schools to deter it.
A uniformed cop or 4 REGULARLY on site. NOT sitting in their car when school starts, NOT sitting in their car on class change, Not being absent when they are needed.
The thin blue line is showing here, not with you but with another, one that knows the school job is a retirement job.
THAT is the issue.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: SlapMonkey
I think apathetic is not the correct term for the people out there marching and protesting. I think apathetic is the correct term for the people who are claiming these shootings are statistically insignificant and are therefore, no big deal. THAT is apathetic.
I don’t think gun lovers have too much to worry about. The guns you own are safe, and you will still be able to buy more and more guns for your cool and awesome arsenal. The one hope I have though, is that future generations will become less and less enamored with guns, and the gun culture in America will become less and less of an issue. I’m hoping that America will one day be like other countries that allow guns - and not have this weird worship relationship with their guns.
originally posted by: milypr81
a reply to: kaylaluv
Switzerland has a higher percentage of gun ownership and one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Perhaps we have a cultural or societal problem here?
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Vector99
Of all people? When it comes to who gets assigned to what, I don’t know anything that doesn’t pertain to my agency and where I live. Anything that falls outside of those two things is an opinion.
I know that my agency SROs aren’t all overweight dudes waiting on a pension. I know that the SRO assigned to my kids’ school fits the description WarDaddy gave far better than the one you did.
Aren't most school district police their own entity?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated
If you are comparing a child getting shot and killed at a public school to getting a splinter... you are definitely NOT appalled. Just sayin’.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Edumakated
If you are comparing a child getting shot and killed at a public school to getting a splinter... you are definitely NOT appalled. Just sayin’.
Work on your reading comprehension... if you think that is what I was doing, then you aren't capable of having an intelligent discussion on the topic.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: SlapMonkey
I think apathetic is not the correct term for the people out there marching and protesting. I think apathetic is the correct term for the people who are claiming these shootings are statistically insignificant and are therefore, no big deal. THAT is apathetic.
I don’t think gun lovers have too much to worry about. The guns you own are safe, and you will still be able to buy more and more guns for your cool and awesome arsenal. The one hope I have though, is that future generations will become less and less enamored with guns, and the gun culture in America will become less and less of an issue. I’m hoping that America will one day be like other countries that allow guns - and not have this weird worship relationship with their guns.
originally posted by: Vector99
Going to high school shouldn't be like going to through the TSA, but on the same note not everyone should be allowed to enter.
originally posted by: Edumakated
Correct... the people marching aren't apathetic, they are ignorant.
Facts are stubborn things. One side has the data and facts to support their position. The other side just has their feelings and emotion.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: kaylaluv
And also: Schools are safer than they were in the 90s, and school shootings are not more common than they used to be, researchers say.
Pesky data and statistics, I know, but hopefully this will help you be better informed as to where the true apathy lies.