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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
That’s just as stupid as me asking you if you're ok with this incident from 2 weeks ago (HERE) where a man killed his wife, 2 kids, and then himself in a murder-suicide.
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: noonebutme
To be honest it's the Arab/Persian Muslims they are always talking about. Not even close to the majority of Muslims but the entire religion gets slapped anyways.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
That’s just as stupid as me asking you if you're ok with this incident from 2 weeks ago (HERE) where a man killed his wife, 2 kids, and then himself in a murder-suicide.
Children shot to death - with a gun. Probably much like the one the OP is holding so proudly in his avatar.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: noonebutme
Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that it's our job to convince nonbelievers of our beliefs.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: intrepid
Qur'an 109, Pickthall translation
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
That’s just as stupid as me asking you if you're ok with this incident from 2 weeks ago (HERE) where a man killed his wife, 2 kids, and then himself in a murder-suicide.
Children shot to death - with a gun. Probably much like the one the OP is holding so proudly in his avatar. Although there are some similarities to this discussion (blaming a whole group of people for the violent actions of a subset), it’s a subject for another thread.
190. Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
191. And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
192. But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
193. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.
6. And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not.
28. O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.
29. Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
originally posted by: Violater1
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: intrepid
Qur'an 109, Pickthall translation
Do you support Kayaluv's comment,"I know the Quran advocates for women owning their own businesses, owning property and being able to travel alone if they want."
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Why should we tolerate Muslims based on a few bad apples killing people? The same reason we should tolerate guns despite the few bad apples using them to kill people.
I don't understand how you can paint Islam as "unacceptable" based on the actions of a few but then turn around and chastise anyone who paint guns as "unacceptable" based on the actions of a few. Both are equally dumb viewpoints yet some want to have their cake and eat it too.
Stop being a hypocrite.
Both are equally dumb viewpoints
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Why should we tolerate Muslims based on a few bad apples killing people? The same reason we should tolerate guns despite the few bad apples using them to kill people.
I don't understand how you can paint Islam as "unacceptable" based on the actions of a few but then turn around and chastise anyone who paint guns as "unacceptable" based on the actions of a few. Both are equally dumb viewpoints yet some want to have their cake and eat it too.
Stop being a hypocrite.
Are you going to argue the other side of the coin on this? The hypocrites who say we can't blame all Muslims on this (we're not) but then turn around and want to hold law-abiding gun owners responsible for the actions of criminals?
originally posted by: Nyiah
Somebody seems to have forgotten the "good" Christian parents who held their 13 children captive, chained and starved. Such models of American morality the Turpins are. And the Gutierrezes in Arizona with their captive kids. Or the guy in Virginia that murdered his baby for the insurance money. Or the guy in Oklahoma that murdered his baby to spite his ex. Or the wonderful Moron chick who murdered her daughter & killed herself in Utah. Or the woman in Iowa who starved hers to death.
Yeah, utterly oozing morality in the US we are.
but the thing is 'barbaric Islam' is widely practiced / tolerated by a majority of Mainstream Global Islam