The Makers and the Takers

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: NightFlight


Georgia isn't too bad, they're slightly above par and much better than most.

That's why we go there! We can't stay long, though, something about lower standards or something...

originally posted by: NightFlight
That's why we go there! We can't stay long, though, something about lower standards or something...

Well, going there and living there are too different things when it comes to milking the rest of the states.

Do you have a Ferrari or live in a McMansion? If so, we're coming to visit.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: howtonhawky


The truth hurts.

Screw him.

I doubt he's virganal...

His whole house looks like a closet... just sayin'.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: NightFlight
That's why we go there! We can't stay long, though, something about lower standards or something...

Well, going there and living there are too different things when it comes to milking the rest of the states.

Do you have a Ferrari or live in a McMansion? If so, we're coming to visit.

I have a 2010 Ford Sport Trac and live on a 62 acre farm. Just cut all my pine trees and have started planting more... come on!

originally posted by: NightFlight
I have a 2010 Ford Sport Trac and live on a 62 acre farm. Just cut all my pine trees and have started planting more... come on!

Cool. Crack a couple bottles of Chateau Lafite since I'm buying.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Send money by paypal, I drink wild turkey...

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

While I'm generally more fiscally conservative and think this should be reined in, does South Carolina deserve a small Applause here?

I mean as long as the federal government is making it rain shouldn't the states try and get as much of it as they can? If I was a resident of SC I'd think my reps were doing a good job for my state.

originally posted by: FauxMulder
While I'm generally more fiscally conservative and think this should be reined in, does South Carolina deserve a small Applause here?

I mean as long as the federal government is making it rain shouldn't the states try and get as much of it as they can? If I was a resident of SC I'd think my reps were doing a good job for my state.

I'm sure if I was a resident of the Great Take of South Carolina I'd be thrilled.

But I'm not, so I want my Benjamins back.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I think your beef is with the irs?

They took your money and plan on keeping it as far as i know?

Do you see any way within reason to fix the problems.

Surely since the king of debt just signed a 2.6 t yr bill you see now he is not the answer.

Great thread topic you found.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You could always take up residence in SC and stop paying taxes to your Bruce Springsteen fanboy governor. I'm sure he'll still get a beach to himself and all the bridge closings he wants without your Benjamin's.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
I think your beef is with the irs?

They took your money and plan on keeping it as far as i know?

The IRS hasn't taken anything from me that isn't taken from everyone else, they aren't the ones creating the fiscal policy, they are merely the collection apparatus for the Federal Government so we can dump truckloads of money on those other states.

Dilly Dilly South Carolina!

originally posted by: FauxMulder
You could always take up residence in SC and stop paying taxes to your Bruce Springsteen fanboy governor. I'm sure he'll still get a beach to himself and all the bridge closings he wants without your Benjamin's.

Fatty Boombah isn't our gov anymore.

And I may just move there, the wife went to USC and she loves it there. Must have been all the free cash they hurled at her to go to college.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Oh so you are pro unconstitutional corporations robbing you and the rest of the lot to give to graham and the rest of the states on your list.

My point is that would it not be more feasible to tackle one single issue of illegal taxes vs taking on individual states accepting bribes?

After all what would be in place to stop future robbery and bribery if the illegal collecting of monies is still accepted.

a reply to: howtonhawky


None of it gets resolved without addressing lobbying by corporations and special interests.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Like through constitutional convention?

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Last i heard there are 13 states on board.

Would this be a way to clean things up iyo.

theme music needed

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Like through constitutional convention?

It may be the only way but it opens a can of worms.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Great thread Augustus,

I am surprised by California's numbers.
I would have thought they would be
much worse on the taking side.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Like through constitutional convention?

It may be the only way but it opens a can of worms.

You may know?

Is there any way to set aside the 1st and 2nd before entering into such.

Can they be taken off the table completely?

imo If that is possible then many states would join quickly.

originally posted by: burntheships
Great thread Augustus.

Thanks.

I am surprised by California's numbers.
I would have thought they would be
much worse on the taking side.

From the discourse here I would have thought so. They are obviously fairly self-sufficient when it comes to Federal Tax use.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
You may know?

Is there any way to set aside the 1st and 2nd before entering into such.

Can they be taken off the table completely?

imo If that is possible then many states would join quickly.

I don't think there is, once the door is opened everything may be on the table. The last thing I want is horse-trading over the Constitution.