Dangerous Democrats Part Three -- a New Star is Born

originally posted by: olaru12
I wouldn't be afraid of Hogg but the new young demographic of voters might be a concern. I don't see them being fans of the GOP!
Dorky old Trump isn't helping the Republican image at all....

Hell IM NOT even a fan of the GOP

There are only a few people in DC who still fight for the people and our rights, the rest are just there for money and power and to hell with the consequences for teh rest of Americans or our republic.

That goes for both the GOP and the DNC

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Admitted

originally posted by: Guyfriday
I don't have anything against the kid personally, but my neighbor does. The first time he saw Hogg on TV he said "That's the face of fascism" Then he stated to rub his tattoo.

I thought it was just nonsense, but after seeing Hogg on the TV today, I'm beginning to see what he saw. I didn't talk to my neighbor yet, but I'm sure he's going to be going off about this for a while.

Hopefully though he's wrong, and Hogg will either grow up or go away. My neighbor is a nice guy, survived a concentration camp during WW2, but doesn't hold grudges. Man though Hogg really upset him, this kids either being used to push a narrative, or just doesn't get it. Either way my neighbor says that the more exposure that kid gets the worse it's going to be for everyone. Again I just hope he's wrong.

My God!

Please! People! You see a teen on TV and he is the face of fascism?

Goebbels? Hitler?

He's a kid!

No wonder you are all so afraid. With such a sensitivity to the media you could be swept away with the slightest breeze. Clutch your guns. They will save you from this teenage-tyranny.

It's funny how the left and right are so quick to fear their political opponents as the next fascist monster ready to gobble the rest of us up. Trump is the next Hitler; Hogg is the next Hitler; oh my dog just farted maybe she's the next Hitler?

And then those very same people try to explain why using "Your the next Hitler" as an attack on their view point is just hyperbole; not realizing their own hyperbaly.

In this particular case it may be that a hallmark of Fascism is to round up the kids, indoctrinate them and then get them to rat out their parents and promote a political agenda.

Not that it happened in Hitler's Germany or any other Fascist experiment on the planet since then till now...

Oh wait.

It isn't fear, btw. Although I find it funny when a liberal always brings up "fear" when faced with an idea that is different. They do that because that's how THEY feel about any idea that is different.

It isn't fear when I point out that the left is currently using children to promote a political agenda that is, quite frankly, anti-constitutional. Anti-American. A political styling that is fascist. By definition, historically.

I am just pointing out what it actually is.

No fear involved.

Hey your right. I was trying to give the idea that Hogg and Trump are the next Hitler the benefit of the doubt by assuming it comes from a place of fear of ones political opponents... but it very well could be that it comes from a place of stupidity rather than fear.

I'll take your word for it you have no fear involved when you seem to be pointing out that all politically opinions expressed by a youthful group must automatically be suspected because "hey there where some young nazi" ... that's just plain stupid.

I will assume by your post that you have some cognitive dysfunction and did not understand that I was merely pointing out that it is not "fear" or "emotion" that drives someone when they just point out that what is happening to our children in America right now with the March of Soros is EXACTLY the same thing that Hitler did with the Hitler Youth.

You calling me stupid was kinda funny though... I will take it as a compliment.

I didn't call you stupid. I called the idea that young people expressing an opinion you don't agree with as automatically a part of the "March of Soros" stupid. I can't possibly know your level of intellect beyond this conversation. You might very well be the smartest person I'm talking to today and I'm quite happy to believe that you are ... but the fact is smart people some times have stupid ideas.

Pst... you know what else Hitler and his band of nazis did in the pursuit of taking over the world? ... they conjured up boggy men for their followers to be afraid of ... kinda of like conjuring up the idea that Soros has the ear of every young person out there who are just dying to turn in their parents.

originally posted by: Admitted
As Republicans, the "Right"...as I understand it...(though I think I belong, largely, to this group)...you're biggest threats are a teenager (this Hogg-wild kid) and a porn-star (Stormy)?

Yes?

Ha! Yeah...it's over guys! Game over!

Hopefully some superpower comes along to liberate you all from these death-camps!

It's very simple, the Fox got a kick in the arse and told by Stevie baby to come up with something to counteract the huuuuuge anti-gun marches..so this is what you got. I guess Foxy will get another kick in the arse.

For all those who think this kid is the enemy,.. how many of you have been victim to a school shooting? I would like to think surely someone should have the same perspective before passing judgement.









Go ahead, I'll wait.

a reply to: baddmove

Hogg could be Hitler reincarnated?

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: DBCowboy

If you're ok with children being manipulated into an agenda in which they demand your civil liberties be removed...

Then carry on and celebrate your false moral superiority on social media.

When you don't have freedom as a principle, your eventual loss is guaranteed

a reply to: AgarthaSeed

This is a false equivalent, because you're comparing something that actually happened to an (unsubstantiated) crackpot conspiracy theory.

originally posted by: Wayfarer
For all those who think this kid is the enemy,.. how many of you have been victim to school shootings. I would like to think surely someone should have the same perspective before passing judgement.


Go ahead, I'll wait.

You do not have to be a party to a particular situation to have a valid opinion of it.

If that where not the case we would all need to stop participating in conversations such as these. Most of us have not been president or won any kind of political office; many of us have not been to war; or are transgender ... and the vast vast majority of us will not be victims of mass shootings. This does not in itself disqualify our opinions on the subjects.

originally posted by: Lumenari
You bring nothing to the debate, do not have any valid ideas and have to slink off because you have no argument besides guns bad.

Still wrong. Keep it up, you're only serving to prove my point.

I give DB 3 points, you none.

Care Factor = 0

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed

If you're ok with children being manipulated into an agenda in which they demand your civil liberties be removed...

Then carry on and celebrate your false moral superiority on social media.

They aren't being manipulated, they are demanding it for themselves. They don't wish to have to risk their lives just to get an education so the "adults" can keep their penis extensions. Anyone who sees ANYTHING wrong with what these kids are doing has, themselves, got an "agenda".

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Wayfarer
For all those who think this kid is the enemy,.. how many of you have been victim to school shootings. I would like to think surely someone should have the same perspective before passing judgement.


Go ahead, I'll wait.

You do not have to be a party to a particular situation to have a valid opinion of it.

If that where not the case we would all need to stop participating in conversations such as these. Most of us have not been president or won any kind of political office; many of us have not been to war; or are transgender ... and the vast vast majority of us will not be victims of mass shootings. This does not in itself disqualify our opinions on the subjects.

You are correct that you don't have to have experienced an event to have an (likely innacurate) opinion of it, but make no mistake, your opinion is a lot less valid than someone who has suffered through it.

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Admitted

originally posted by: Guyfriday
I don't have anything against the kid personally, but my neighbor does. The first time he saw Hogg on TV he said "That's the face of fascism" Then he stated to rub his tattoo.

I thought it was just nonsense, but after seeing Hogg on the TV today, I'm beginning to see what he saw. I didn't talk to my neighbor yet, but I'm sure he's going to be going off about this for a while.

Hopefully though he's wrong, and Hogg will either grow up or go away. My neighbor is a nice guy, survived a concentration camp during WW2, but doesn't hold grudges. Man though Hogg really upset him, this kids either being used to push a narrative, or just doesn't get it. Either way my neighbor says that the more exposure that kid gets the worse it's going to be for everyone. Again I just hope he's wrong.

My God!

Please! People! You see a teen on TV and he is the face of fascism?

Goebbels? Hitler?

He's a kid!

No wonder you are all so afraid. With such a sensitivity to the media you could be swept away with the slightest breeze. Clutch your guns. They will save you from this teenage-tyranny.

It's funny how the left and right are so quick to fear their political opponents as the next fascist monster ready to gobble the rest of us up. Trump is the next Hitler; Hogg is the next Hitler; oh my dog just farted maybe she's the next Hitler?

And then those very same people try to explain why using "Your the next Hitler" as an attack on their view point is just hyperbole; not realizing their own hyperbaly.

In this particular case it may be that a hallmark of Fascism is to round up the kids, indoctrinate them and then get them to rat out their parents and promote a political agenda.

Not that it happened in Hitler's Germany or any other Fascist experiment on the planet since then till now...

Oh wait.

It isn't fear, btw. Although I find it funny when a liberal always brings up "fear" when faced with an idea that is different. They do that because that's how THEY feel about any idea that is different.

It isn't fear when I point out that the left is currently using children to promote a political agenda that is, quite frankly, anti-constitutional. Anti-American. A political styling that is fascist. By definition, historically.

I am just pointing out what it actually is.

No fear involved.

Hey your right. I was trying to give the idea that Hogg and Trump are the next Hitler the benefit of the doubt by assuming it comes from a place of fear of ones political opponents... but it very well could be that it comes from a place of stupidity rather than fear.

I'll take your word for it you have no fear involved when you seem to be pointing out that all politically opinions expressed by a youthful group must automatically be suspected because "hey there where some young nazi" ... that's just plain stupid.

I will assume by your post that you have some cognitive dysfunction and did not understand that I was merely pointing out that it is not "fear" or "emotion" that drives someone when they just point out that what is happening to our children in America right now with the March of Soros is EXACTLY the same thing that Hitler did with the Hitler Youth.

You calling me stupid was kinda funny though... I will take it as a compliment.

kinda of like conjuring up the idea that Soros has the ear of every young person out there who are just dying to turn in their parents.

Just curious if you had heard the Kraft family chartered a jet to fly a bunch of students from broward county to DC, out of the goodness of their hearts I am guessing?

Who else is footing the bill for that thing, Bloomberg, Soros, CNN, MSNBC? Follow the money and you find the agenda that is being pushed... outside of the Kraft family I do not know anyone else that is picking up the tab for certain so where is the money coming from.

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Problem with Hogg is if you get him off script he falls back on insults and cursing, which tells me he is reading a script prepared for him. IF he was able to think on his feet and continue a conversation in a healthy manner even after it drifts I would be much more inclined to give him a chance.

Think the GOP is saying "ok, WTF do we do now" ???

a reply to: olaru12

Judging by our normal voter turnout maybe 10% of those kids will vote when old enough, so not really a problem yet.

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Wayfarer
For all those who think this kid is the enemy,.. how many of you have been victim to school shootings. I would like to think surely someone should have the same perspective before passing judgement.


Go ahead, I'll wait.

You do not have to be a party to a particular situation to have a valid opinion of it.

If that where not the case we would all need to stop participating in conversations such as these. Most of us have not been president or won any kind of political office; many of us have not been to war; or are transgender ... and the vast vast majority of us will not be victims of mass shootings. This does not in itself disqualify our opinions on the subjects.

You are correct that you don't have to have experienced an event to have an (likely innacurate) opinion of it, but make no mistake, your opinion is a lot less valid than someone who has suffer through it.

That is not correct at all. There are a meriod of inputs that makes one opinion more or less valid on a subject. Participation can be one of them, but it could also be a hindrance as well.

For example a person who has studied viloninet crime for an adult life time will likely have a much more valid (accurate) opinion on the subject than last night's mugging victim. The victim may be able to offer a prospective that others might not be able to, but it is also likely that it will be clouded by the emotion of the incident and can be full of innacuicies.

originally posted by: Wayfarer
For all those who think this kid is the enemy,.. how many of you have been victim to a school shooting? I would like to think surely someone should have the same perspective before passing judgement.









Go ahead, I'll wait.

It does in no way make them the authority on guns or our rights, emotion does not equal knowledge.

I havent been a victim of a school shooting, but I have been in active combat much of my life and shot at more times than I can count. I currently have a fragment from an AK round still in my leg.

Why am I not anti-gun?

Your statement doesnt even make sense.

originally posted by: olaru12
Think the GOP is saying "ok, WTF do we do now" ???

No, true conservatives are saying "Wow look how many people are so ill informed and ignorant"

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: Admitted

originally posted by: Guyfriday
I don't have anything against the kid personally, but my neighbor does. The first time he saw Hogg on TV he said "That's the face of fascism" Then he stated to rub his tattoo.

I thought it was just nonsense, but after seeing Hogg on the TV today, I'm beginning to see what he saw. I didn't talk to my neighbor yet, but I'm sure he's going to be going off about this for a while.

Hopefully though he's wrong, and Hogg will either grow up or go away. My neighbor is a nice guy, survived a concentration camp during WW2, but doesn't hold grudges. Man though Hogg really upset him, this kids either being used to push a narrative, or just doesn't get it. Either way my neighbor says that the more exposure that kid gets the worse it's going to be for everyone. Again I just hope he's wrong.

My God!

Please! People! You see a teen on TV and he is the face of fascism?

Goebbels? Hitler?

He's a kid!

No wonder you are all so afraid. With such a sensitivity to the media you could be swept away with the slightest breeze. Clutch your guns. They will save you from this teenage-tyranny.

It's funny how the left and right are so quick to fear their political opponents as the next fascist monster ready to gobble the rest of us up. Trump is the next Hitler; Hogg is the next Hitler; oh my dog just farted maybe she's the next Hitler?

And then those very same people try to explain why using "Your the next Hitler" as an attack on their view point is just hyperbole; not realizing their own hyperbaly.

In this particular case it may be that a hallmark of Fascism is to round up the kids, indoctrinate them and then get them to rat out their parents and promote a political agenda.

Not that it happened in Hitler's Germany or any other Fascist experiment on the planet since then till now...

Oh wait.

It isn't fear, btw. Although I find it funny when a liberal always brings up "fear" when faced with an idea that is different. They do that because that's how THEY feel about any idea that is different.

It isn't fear when I point out that the left is currently using children to promote a political agenda that is, quite frankly, anti-constitutional. Anti-American. A political styling that is fascist. By definition, historically.

I am just pointing out what it actually is.

No fear involved.

Hey your right. I was trying to give the idea that Hogg and Trump are the next Hitler the benefit of the doubt by assuming it comes from a place of fear of ones political opponents... but it very well could be that it comes from a place of stupidity rather than fear.

I'll take your word for it you have no fear involved when you seem to be pointing out that all politically opinions expressed by a youthful group must automatically be suspected because "hey there where some young nazi" ... that's just plain stupid.

I will assume by your post that you have some cognitive dysfunction and did not understand that I was merely pointing out that it is not "fear" or "emotion" that drives someone when they just point out that what is happening to our children in America right now with the March of Soros is EXACTLY the same thing that Hitler did with the Hitler Youth.

You calling me stupid was kinda funny though... I will take it as a compliment.

kinda of like conjuring up the idea that Soros has the ear of every young person out there who are just dying to turn in their parents.

Just curious if you had heard the Kraft family chartered a jet to fly a bunch of students from broward county to DC, out of the goodness of their hearts I am guessing?

Who else is footing the bill for that thing, Bloomberg, Soros, CNN, MSNBC? Follow the money and you find the agenda that is being pushed... outside of the Kraft family I do not know anyone else that is picking up the tab for certain so where is the money coming from.

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Problem with Hogg is if you get him off script he falls back on insults and cursing, which tells me he is reading a script prepared for him. IF he was able to think on his feet and continue a conversation in a healthy manner even after it drifts I would be much more inclined to give him a chance.

olaru12 posted a picture of a protest... when you can place all of those people on a Kraft family chartered jet then we can start dismissing them all as Kraft agenda pushers ... which I'm guessing is to sell less guns and more cheese?

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: olaru12

Judging by our normal voter turnout maybe 10% of those kids will vote when old enough, so not really a problem yet.

The midterms in November will be interesting. Those kids have parents. A sleeping giant has awakened, and they're pissed.
Now Trump has caused a bigly disaffection among some of his most ardent conservative supporters with his vote on the budget.

We will see....