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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: djz3ro
Maybe....collectors. Stamp culture too. And knife culture.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: djz3ro
Maybe....collectors. Stamp culture too. And knife culture.
So you're saying they are like other culture clubs, they come and they go.
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
Well as a 16 year old boy I love guns-because violent video games.
Okay that's a lie, but to play my broken record again-hunting rifles? fine. protection pistols? fine. Anything that can stop a white rhino? no dice.
A hunting rifle would be needed to stop a rhino.
An AR-15 would just piss it off.
A classic example of posting about something you know nothing about.
You were the only one who mentioned an AR15, I don't think you reading something that isn't there is a reflection on anyone's ability to post other than your own
I think you'll be surprised how informed a lot of these teenagers on the march are. I remember helping out with the Anti-War protests that preceded the invasion of Iraq. I led a bunch of protesters up to a school that were refusing to let their pupils protest, our protest outside the school led to us being joined by 5th and 6th year pupils (15-18 year olds). I spoke to some of them as we made our way to the town centre to rejoin the big protest, they knew a lot about the issues and had researched both sides of the argument. Kids aren't as dumb as you guys make out, at least here in the UK. And those I've known from the US when they were that age were no less informed.
Well as a 16 year old boy I love guns-because violent video games.
Okay that's a lie, but to play my broken record again-hunting rifles? fine. protection pistols? fine. Anything that can stop a white rhino? no dice.
originally posted by: Lumenari
Speaking of ability to post, look at what I had to respond to... your original post.
Well as a 16 year old boy I love guns-because violent video games.
Okay that's a lie, but to play my broken record again-hunting rifles? fine. protection pistols? fine. Anything that can stop a white rhino? no dice.
Go back to public school and demand a tax credit as a refund, if you indeed work for a living and are not just another one on the dole.
originally posted by: Lumenari
For your second paragraph, I merely have to quote Ronald Reagan.
"It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so"
Of course, he wasn't from the UK like you are, so you probably don't know the name.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: paraphi
Are you saying a 16 year old does not have the right to have an opinion on guns?
They can have an opinion. It's just not a very informed/educated opinion.
There seems to be a fair number of idiots that do not understand the the right to bear arms is for the defense (self, state and country) against enemies.
The 2008 Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller shows definitively that the Second Amendment is about an archaic issue relevant to 1790, not to 2012.
The Second Amendment reads as follows: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
The purpose of the Second Amendment was to prevent the new Federal Government established in 1789 from disarming the state militias and replacing them with a Federal standing army. It was a concern that was relevant perhaps for a few years around the birth of the country. It is irrelevant today. Americans do not rely on state militias in 2012 for our freedom from the federal government.
originally posted by: Vdogg
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: paraphi
Are you saying a 16 year old does not have the right to have an opinion on guns?
They can have an opinion. It's just not a very informed/educated opinion.
You have no way of knowing that. You don’t live their lives, you have no idea how much thought and research they may have put into an issue.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ketsuko
More worrisome is the fact that far too many who should know better are giving this child a bully pulpit that is, frankly, undeserved.
originally posted by: WeRpeons
Sixteen yr. old's protested the Vietnam War. The draft would eventually affect them and Vietnam was never a threat to the United States! Mass school shootings also directly affect students of every age including school personnel. These kids have grown-up with the threat of school shootings since the mass shooting at Columbine! They have every right to protest gun violence since they are directly affected by it! These young people have more courage than our law makers. It's sad how many school shootings and lost lives had to take place until the fire was lit under our representatives to start listening to the people.
How many mass shootings does it take until the lives of citizen's are more important than campaign contributions from special interest groups? Unless you're heartless, I can guarantee if a gun supporter's child was gunned down and killed, their perspective on the current gun laws would change.
originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: paraphi
Are you saying a 16 year old does not have the right to have an opinion on guns?
They can have an opinion. It's just not a very informed/educated opinion.
I think lying in a closet at school in your dying friend's blood is a pretty damn good education, and you don't need to be 21 to figure out in that moment that the laws have gone haywire.
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originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: paraphi
Are you saying a 16 year old does not have the right to have an opinion on guns?
My 7-year-old has opinions. Are you saying he ought to decide policy for the entire country?
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: Vdogg
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
originally posted by: paraphi
Are you saying a 16 year old does not have the right to have an opinion on guns?
They can have an opinion. It's just not a very informed/educated opinion.
You have no way of knowing that. You don’t live their lives, you have no idea how much thought and research they may have put into an issue.
Hi, I am David Hogg. I am smart enough and mature enough to lecture you on what I think the gun laws should be, but not smart enough or mature enough to own one myself.
That position does not indicate a great deal of thought, frankly.
Do you think my tweenage nephew who is too young to drive should be telling all the rest of us what the legal speed limits ought to be?
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ketsuko
More worrisome is the fact that far too many who should know better are giving this child a bully pulpit that is, frankly, undeserved.
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: djz3ro
Maybe....collectors. Stamp culture too. And knife culture.
People don't spend vast amounts of money modding and customising their stamps or knives though, and neither of those things are described as penis extensions...