Positive vibrations of LOVE, Peace and Strength to the YOUTH rallies against gun violence-

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Justoneman

Definition of the word " Democracy "

A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

en.oxforddictionaries.com...

If it looks, sounds and smells like a Democracy then that is what it is.

If you say otherwise, then it sounds like a load of Codswallop to me.

Republic


[ri- puhb-lik]

NOUN
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4.
(initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France.
5.
(initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

a reply to: UKTruth

Instead of making crass comments on here, go and educate your politicians if you think the U.S. is not a Democracy. They seem to think it is.

Your just making yourself look an idiot.

"Well, we’re working on that," Ryan said. "We will not take this. We will not tolerate this. This is the oldest deliberative body in the world. We are the oldest democracy. And we have rules of decorum so that we can peacefully settle our issues and actually have democracy.

www.politifact.com...

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: queenofswords

These young people need to recognize that our 2A is not the cause. Guard your 2A like treasure.

Americans once had the right to own slaves.

Then common sense prevailed and that right was taken away. The same will eventually happen with the right to own arms.

It may take awhile, but it will happen.

Can you show us where we had an enumerated right in the Bill of "Rights" to own slaves? I am asking for some friends.

Thanks in advance.

Stop playing silly bugger.

You know as well as i do that slavery was allowed until it's abolition in The Thirteenth Amendment.

It didn't have to be written down anywhere, it was just a know fact that if people wanted slaves they took them.

Is it written down in your Constitution that you allowed to breath air?

For someone who claims to be informed, it’s interesting you don’t know the difference between the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Justoneman

Definition of the word " Democracy "

A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

en.oxforddictionaries.com...

If it looks, sounds and smells like a Democracy then that is what it is.

If you say otherwise, then it sounds like a load of Codswallop to me.

Republic


[ri- puhb-lik]

NOUN
1.
a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2.
any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3.
a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
4.
(initial capital letter) any of the five periods of republican government in France.
5.
(initial capital letter, italics) a philosophical dialogue (4th century b.c.) by Plato dealing with the composition and structure of the ideal state.

A valiant effort, but I would encourage you to stop trying to explain this to someone who is being deliberately obtuse.

a reply to: Lab4Us

it’s interesting you don’t know the difference between the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

What i do know, is that owning slaves in The U.S. was looked upon as a God Given Right.

It didn't have to be written down in whatever document you wish to quote.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth

Instead of making crass comments on here, go and educate your politicians if you think the U.S. is not a Democracy. They seem to think it is.

Your just making yourself look an idiot.

"Well, we’re working on that," Ryan said. "We will not take this. We will not tolerate this. This is the oldest deliberative body in the world. We are the oldest democracy. And we have rules of decorum so that we can peacefully settle our issues and actually have democracy.

www.politifact.com...

Actually, I didn't say the US was not a democracy - I was just trying to provide you with some vital knowledge that you are clearly lacking about the differences between democracies.

If you understood, you'd actually be able to have a decent debate, but alas, you seem to be so entrenched, probably because you are embarrassed about revealing how little you know.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink - so true.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth

Instead of making crass comments on here, go and educate your politicians if you think the U.S. is not a Democracy. They seem to think it is.

Your just making yourself look an idiot.

"Well, we’re working on that," Ryan said. "We will not take this. We will not tolerate this. This is the oldest deliberative body in the world. We are the oldest democracy. And we have rules of decorum so that we can peacefully settle our issues and actually have democracy.

www.politifact.com...

Actually, I didn't say the US was not a democracy - I was just trying to provide you with some vital knowledge that you are clearly lacking about the differences between democracies.

If you understood, you'd actually be able to have a decent debate, but alas, you seem to be so entrenched, probably because you are embarrassed about revealing how little you know.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink - so true.

Coming from someone who described yesterdays rallies as something akin to The Hitler Youth, i take any comments you make with the contempt they deserve.

Your quote.

Just watching some of the scenes from the march - reminds me of the Hitler youth. These people are fanatics and cult-like.

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth

Instead of making crass comments on here, go and educate your politicians if you think the U.S. is not a Democracy. They seem to think it is.

Your just making yourself look an idiot.

"Well, we’re working on that," Ryan said. "We will not take this. We will not tolerate this. This is the oldest deliberative body in the world. We are the oldest democracy. And we have rules of decorum so that we can peacefully settle our issues and actually have democracy.

www.politifact.com...

Actually, I didn't say the US was not a democracy - I was just trying to provide you with some vital knowledge that you are clearly lacking about the differences between democracies.

If you understood, you'd actually be able to have a decent debate, but alas, you seem to be so entrenched, probably because you are embarrassed about revealing how little you know.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink - so true.

Coming from someone who described yesterdays rallies as something akin to The Hitler Youth, i take any comments you make with the contempt they deserve.

Your quote.

Just watching some of the scenes from the march - reminds me of the Hitler youth. These people are fanatics and cult-like.

The Nazi's used youth in the same way to propagandize political ideals - lots of similarities.

Here is what Cate Haste had to say in her book, Nazi Women:

The leadership immediately set about organizing youth into a coherent body of loyal supporters. Under Baldur von Schirach, himself only twenty-five at the time, the organization was to net all young people from ages ten to eighteen to be schooled in Nazi ideology and trained to be the future valuable members of the Reich. From the start, the Nazis pitched their appeal as the party of youth, building a New Germany.... Hitler intended to inspire youth with a mission, appealing to their idealism and hope."

You should always be concerned when youth, underdeveloped minds, are organised for political aims.

What your observation, however, has to do with your lack of knowledge on democracy is not clear.

Here's a simple introduction for you.

Democracy simple

I hope you can understand that calling the US a Democracy is a useless statement, no more useful than saying the US is a country. Way too broad in it's definition to mean anything of value. Getting stuck on that level of discussion just makes it look like you are more interested in backing up a meaningless statement instead of understanding what others are telling you. In other words, you need to understand the differences between democratic systems. You've demonstrated that you do not, evidenced very clearly when you said, quote:

You are either a democracy or not. There is no half way. So which is it ?

You might lack knowledge now, but that does not mean you can not learn. I encourage you to do so. It's a very interesting subject.

Sending positive vibes and mass protest are both catharsis, not effective means of change and progress.

a reply to: UKTruth

The Nazi's used youth in the same way to propagandize political ideals - lots of similarities.

If Nazis wanted to protect society by stopping people from owning powerful weapons that can kill many people in minutes, then that would've been of great benefit to the health and welfare of society. Instead they gave everyone guns and told them to fear and kill whomever Hitler didn't like.

originally posted by: lightofgratitude
a reply to: UKTruth

The Nazi's used youth in the same way to propagandize political ideals - lots of similarities.

If Nazis wanted to protect society by stopping people from owning powerful weapons that can kill many people in minutes, then that would've been of great benefit to the health and welfare of society. Instead they gave everyone guns and told them to fear and kill whomever Hitler didn't like.

Your stunning lack of knowledge on what the Nazi's did with relation to guns speaks volumes.

Article 4 Section 4 of the US constitution says Republican form of government.

Article 2 Section 2 says every single person in this country has the RIGHTS laid out in the Bill of Rights.

Doesn't matter how many people showed up for their little trophies.

Not a one of them has bothered to read the supreme law of this country.

originally posted by: lightofgratitude
a reply to: UKTruth

The Nazi's used youth in the same way to propagandize political ideals - lots of similarities.

If Nazis wanted to protect society by stopping people from owning powerful weapons that can kill many people in minutes, then that would've been of great benefit to the health and welfare of society. Instead they gave everyone guns and told them to fear and kill whomever Hitler didn't like.

Nazi's took the guns from most regular folks, gave them to Party members / solidiers.

Few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the 1930s.[1] The Weimar Republic had strict gun control laws.[7] When the Third Reich gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened, such as allowing ownership for Nazi party members and the military.[4]:672 The laws were tightened in other ways. Nazi laws disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for "ordinary" German citizens.[4]:670,676 The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries. en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: UKTruth

Very good.

Its well known "you get them when they're young and you've got them for life".

Its how McDonald's is number one, despite having the most sterile lab spec food, food that doesnt taste half as good as pretty much every other competitor, worst prices, hardly ever any really good deals, rarely any special monthly limited time menu items to die for, etc.

Its all about how they target the kids with clowns, jungle gyms and even actual video game kiosks.



In psychological studies, the field of Developmental Psychology is the specific field that deals with this stuff.

And I argue all the is the reason McDonald's has been Number 1 above the rest almost forever = marketing to children.

originally posted by: lightofgratitude
a reply to: UKTruth

The Nazi's used youth in the same way to propagandize political ideals - lots of similarities.

If Nazis wanted to protect society by stopping people from owning powerful weapons that can kill many people in minutes, then that would've been of great benefit to the health and welfare of society. Instead they gave everyone guns and told them to fear and kill whomever Hitler didn't like.

Saul Alynski, is that you?

The NRA is a group of citizens,5 million plus,who elect the leaders by ballot,most of us are working class folks who will never give up our right to defend our homeandd families.The NRA is our voice,not a business.The media is a puppet of the socialists,so who has the real influence?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Lab4Us

it’s interesting you don’t know the difference between the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

What i do know, is that owning slaves in The U.S. was looked upon as a God Given Right.

It didn't have to be written down in whatever document you wish to quote.

People may have felt that way, but the Constitution didn't describe it that way. Just like with the State-sponsored religions and Men-Only voting, they all went away in time.

The Second Amendment clearly recognizes that the People have a right to bear arms and defend themselves, and that the Government shall not infringe upon that right. The Constitution is a cage to restrain Government, not to regulate People.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu
The Constitution is a cage to restrain Government, not to regulate People.

originally posted by: Fermy
Hmmm
The fem thread.
Saving the world with cuddles and soothing words. That'll work.

A spontaneous youth rally? The how did the children get the same signs and t-shirts here in a rural Southern Arizona town? I think I smell the stink of the anti-Jew, and Nazi George Soros. Didn't he align himself with Hillary and Obama? HMMM, another socialist coup attempt...