Snowflake Soldiers: Army Officers Going Back To Basics To Instill Discipline On ‘Entitled’

originally posted by: watchitburn
This should be fun.

We generally don't have this problem in the Marine Corps. We're pretty efficient at crushing individuals and the weak at boot camp. But the other services have different standards for their basic training and Officer training.

On the other hand, if we want to have good surgeons, communications, cyber and logistics officers etc in the military, then it's not in our best interest to break them or scare them away. They're generally not going to see combat, but they're still vital to an effective military.

So it's a fine line we have to tread.

Even the Marines have gotten soft in their training, I went through basic in the 90s, new boots today graduating id say 60 percent couldnt have made it through the training we had back then.

Back then a DI could smack you in the face, kick dirt in your face, hit you with a foot locker, throw ya to the floor. I have read about the training and asked some of the new recruits what theirs was like. They arent allowed to do any of that anymore and if a boot is being stressed out from the yelling in the face he can basically call a "Time Out".

Simple fact, across all branches of the service, were not turning out the hard men and women we use to, sure there are still plenty out there, but a lot were tough minded before they even came in.

Its a fact concessions in training have made weaker military men and women.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
And to think the Marines almost got stuck with the girly hats on the left vs the historical ones on the right.

Yeah, looks like a marching band hat.

those rose bowl medals?

Deff the right.

I do not think "millennials" are too soft to defend their country if a real war broke out.
Yes, some people born in this millennium certainly will be broken and scared in the face of the great lion of war, but others shall rise to the challenge, and fight to their very death to defend what they believe, what ever that may be.

The time of their birth has little to do with their character.
Nature vs Nurture.

Even in societies there are different sects. I am different than my neighbors of the same age.
I could be strong, they could be weak, or vice-versa.

Too many variables to use a broad phrase.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Another Obama blunder.

a reply to: Luuke123

You would have to remove their phones, video games and fast food outlets and dangle them out as bait. Probably the only way they'd fight.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Are Millenials so soft that they're unable to defend their Country if a real war took place?

Maybe the current generation is just more intelligent and far more aware of the actual reality of the situation, than previous generations... They're not so inclined to blindly volunteer to be expendable pawns for TPTB.

I do enjoy your posts though... they so remind me of when I was a young teen. All idealistic and so incredibly naive.

Fair enough... accept I'm 34 years old and far more jaded, than "idealistic"... lol.

Anyway, when I say more intelligent & aware, I obviously mean more knowledgeable than prior generations, which is a indisputable fact. Even when I was first born, the only real way a person could gain knowledge or be informed by world events, was by going to the library, reading a news paper, watching the nightly news, or just by word of mouth... Now just about everyone has a devise in their pocket, which allows them to research just about anything and connect with people all over the world with a few taps on a screen.

Its a whole new world...I guess a higher sense of individuality & entitlement is just apart of it.

The current generation will be the one that brings the US down.

I highly doubt it... Sorry to disappoint you.

You are a first born or middle child?

It's worse for the youngest.

Yeah, I'm the so called "first born", to answer your question.

But out of pure curiosity, what do you mean by, "its worse for the youngest"?

originally posted by: Luuke123
I do not think "millennials" are too soft to defend their country if a real war broke out.
Yes, some people born in this millennium certainly will be broken and scared in the face of the great lion of war, but others shall rise to the challenge, and fight to their very death to defend what they believe, what ever that may be.

The time of their birth has little to do with their character.
Nature vs Nurture.

Even in societies there are different sects. I am different than my neighbors of the same age.
I could be strong, they could be weak, or vice-versa.

Too many variables to use a broad phrase.

They have been taught fear all their lives! Protected against all possible. Even words.

My friends daughter is fearless, skateboarding since 3 at least. She's pretty good.

Cuts and scrapes and she is proud of them. She is getting girly in her old age, 7, tho.

Dad is aussie. Mom is chinese. Might have something to do with it.

Maybe this generation can get everyone back on track.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Are Millenials so soft that they're unable to defend their Country if a real war took place?

Maybe the current generation is just more intelligent and far more aware of the actual reality of the situation, than previous generations... They're not so inclined to blindly volunteer to be expendable pawns for TPTB.

I do enjoy your posts though... they so remind me of when I was a young teen. All idealistic and so incredibly naive.

Fair enough... accept I'm 34 years old and far more jaded, than "idealistic"... lol.

Anyway, when I say more intelligent & aware, I obviously mean more knowledgeable than prior generations, which is a indisputable fact. Even when I was first born, the only real way a person could gain knowledge or be informed by world events, was by going to the library, reading a news paper, watching the nightly news, or just by word of mouth... Now just about everyone has a devise in their pocket, which allows them to research just about anything and connect with people all over the world with a few taps on a screen.

Its a whole new world...I guess a higher sense of individuality & entitlement is just apart of it.

The current generation will be the one that brings the US down.

I highly doubt it... Sorry to disappoint you.

You are a first born or middle child?

It's worse for the youngest.

Yeah, I'm the so called "first born", to answer your question.

But out of pure curiosity, what do you mean by, "its worse for the youngest"?

The first born has everything, can do no wrong.

Middle kid is the troubled child.

Youngest is the always the baby.

Sibling/family dynamics.

All very scientific.

I'm first born, too.

a reply to: SailorJerry

Yea, yea. The ol stress card rumor.

Always from somebody who heard it from somebody who heard it from somebody.

And we all know how hard it was in the Old Corps.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Dan Daly would like a word about your description of his cover.

Be cynical all you like, just look at the requirements now days VS even the late 90s.

Also look at the graduation rates.

That tells you much of what you need to know

originally posted by: SailorJerry
Be cynical all you like, just look at the requirements now days VS even the late 90s.

Also look at the graduation rates.

That tells you much of what you need to know

Yeah, it's a problem. If not now, then later if and when # really hits the fan.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Friend of yours? I clicked the link but it took me to a midget porn site with 100 virus'.

I'm not pushing that link twice.

I'm not so sure it's as extreme as it's being painted, all this.
Over here there was a bit of a row about the new army recruitment campaign because it was supposed to be devaluing the actual business of soldiering.
When you watch them though, they are a pretty fair representation of what most folks remember.

a reply to: SprocketUK

They're smiling because their brothers weren't forced to wear womens hats. If Obama had issued them, the army might of been next.

a reply to: BotheLumberJack

Be a rare man who made fun of a marine's cap more than once I reckon.

a reply to: SprocketUK

If they survived it, I doubt they'd repeat the offense.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
Dan Daly would like a word about your description of his cover.

His hat is soooooooo gay. I'm surprised he got two Medal of Honors with that thing on. Probably could have got a third if he were wearing the new cover.

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack
An extremely controversial topic for some and I chose to post this one. Why? Because it's controversial and, and... The way things are at present are shaping the future.

People who choose to enlist in the armed services are to be admired. They are willing to serve their country and put their lives on the line for us all for relatively little pay. So I am not one to criticize their actions. However, cultural changes in our young people, the millennials, are leading officers to change their training methods. Millennial recruits are coming in with less respect and discipline than is usually expected of soldiers and for a job as important as theirs, that has to change. After all, this is the first generation of soldiers used to “safe spaces” whenever the stress level gets too high. And the military offers plenty of stressful situations.

It shouldn’t surprise us that the mentality of entitled millennials is infiltrating our military, but it needs to be stopped. The military is for tough minded people who can handle extreme stress. If some of the snowflakes can’t handle the new training, than maybe the military is not for them. In 2016, it was reported that the Virginia Military Institute offered “stressbuster” coloring stations for cadets before their final exams. This drew wide criticism.

joeforamerica.com...
Are Millenials so soft that they're unable to defend their Country if a real war took place?

As long as the enemy issues trigger warnings, and the Caffè latte truck doesn't fall behind or run empty, I think they'll be fine.

Just make sure they don't have to run, climb, carry anything or fire any guns.

a reply to: SailorJerry

I’d love to look at those rates so why don’t you go ahead and source them for us so we can all see them.