The TRUMP EFFECT - North Korea is Already Winding Down Its Nuclear Weapons Program.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

But they purchased them when Bolton and bush were in power..


SIX YEARS into the bush administration..


We definitely need the people who allowed them to gain nukes in the first place running the negotiations.. yea that make sense.

That has to literally be the worst attempt at a point in history.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Why would they???

As long as they have nukes it makes them impossible to invade and they are a world power to be taken seriously.

The second they give them up all of that vanishes.


There is nothing we could EVER offer them that is more beneficial to North Korea than that.

Period..

And that part has NOTHING to do with trump/obama/Bush.

There isn’t enough gold, trade or assurances in the world to there to ever be a trade North Korea would take.

And everyone in Washington knows that.

Trump supporters pretending otherwise is retarded.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Nukes are not the pinnacle weapon because they are too big to be tactical..


Not because we have developed some bigger threat to the planet and humanity as a whole.


If Russia and the US launch at each other. The SPECIES DIES..


We won’t be launching 20 nukes each and only hit the major cities.

We will be launching thousands each.


An event that with steadily increasing numbers of competing nuclear powers, is a mathematical certainty long term.


The US should have conquered the world in that small 1945-1950 window when we were the only nuclear power.

The planet only survives long term if there is only one.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: DBCowboy

BWAHAHAHA...


Bolton is a TV general /political hack..


No nuclear power has EVER given up their nukes..


It would take a trump supporter to believe otherwise lol..

Someone who believes anything their orange god says...

Anyone not retarded knows what time it is..

Some obsessed President Trump haters would hate seeing positive progression with NK.

So bad they hope no progression gets made at all because Trump.

That’s the retard part. Wanting to see failure because of some sick obsessive hate of Trump.

I think NK is having its own taste of nuclear radiation since the collapse of that mountain. NK isn't even high tech enough to deal with radiation. It lost its chance to modernize its army with China. Plus having nuke bomb will completely give green light to invade and destroy NK. NK was dumb as fk to be honest. They had China/Russia backing them that can give them the nukes if WW3 happens/Nuclear threat escalates on the Korean area like Cuban missile crisis.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

they were purchasing nuke making material before then and when Obama came into power surged on their acquisitions and their own designs. we were too soft during his presidency on the norks and now look where we all are.

with George w some say we went too far others say not far enough. turns out not far enough especially when we dropped the ball for 8 years with obama.

Have a strong feeling that they are winding it down in North Korea but are ratcheting it up in either Syria or Iran, if not both. Little Rocket Man knows he will be held accountable for what's on the NK peninsula but will have the backing of others within the Middle East.

Not to mention the gains from the nuclear programs already underway there. It will take some strong resolve to stop what has already begun, longer than the maybe 3 years Trump has left.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I've heard of low yield Battlefield nukes. Is that something that's under development?

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: BASSPLYR

Nukes are not the pinnacle weapon because they are too big to be tactical..


Not because we have developed some bigger threat to the planet and humanity as a whole.


If Russia and the US launch at each other. The SPECIES DIES..


We won’t be launching 20 nukes each and only hit the major cities.

We will be launching thousands each.


An event that with steadily increasing numbers of competing nuclear powers, is a mathematical certainty long term.


The US should have conquered the world in that small 1945-1950 window when we were the only nuclear power.

The planet only survives long term if there is only one.

you know we and others do have tactical nukes right...guess you dont.

your second paragraph doesn't make sense in context to your first.

like i said we haven't been sitting on our asses for 80 years. we have something much more dynamic now. we've even Used it and the public never caught on. we won't be launching nukes anytime soon. neither are other countries. except maybe the norks they're crazy. but something tells me Kim Jung in has been pulled aside by his advisors and been told. "nooo. really the Americans can wipe us out without so much as singing the grass across the boarder of south korea. and these new guys are crazy enough to do it!" that's probably why suddenly he's trying to buy time and down play. the question is will we be a bunch of suckers for 8 years like during obamas presidency toward the norks or play the game scared straight with our own brand of 'we might just do it!' crazy.

seems to me that other than Google fu. you really have no idea what your talking about in this conversation.

a reply to: DJMSN

I don't know, maybe Kimmy really does care that people of his country are getting close to the point of digging in the ground to find food.

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: intrptr

So Trump is the provocateur for stating he will demolish him and his people if he keeps testing nukes and threatening to use them on us and our allies? Is it opposite day or have we slipped into an alternate universe?

The presider is ring announcer, scapegoat, celebrity, whichever hat they need him to wear for the occasion.

For those interested, the real trump effect is what is taking place in voting booths for special elections around the country. That is the trump effect.
Look for the main event this November.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Like any country out there, they know that all of the major powers are spying on all countries, taking photographs and analyzing them. And North Korea is wanting to come to the negotiating table. China is not wanting any part of the talks, which we should find suspicious, and that should be raising up red flags.

Now both Korea's would like reunification to happen one day, when it is agreeable. China an South want peace. And China would want North Korea not to be as isolated, as then it would be good for business. In short it wants the talks and peace to happen.

What North Korea, ultimately wants, is that the sanctions to be eased, if not lifted, either on the recomendation of the USA or as justification, showing the USA to be a bully. The question should be will Trump and his team walk into the trap that is laid out by the North Korea, or can they defuse it and come out with something substantial and moving forward towards a peace treaty?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: carewemust

Unfortunately NK has performed this dance more than once in the past.

Let's wait to see what happens before we start celebrating .

yup...NK has done this with each president....trump is bringing in Bolton who thinks a "first strike" on NK is needed....he also wants to go to war with Iran.....

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What ever happened to the rumors that NK is doing the wind-down of the collapse of the Mountain they were doing all of their testing out of? If I remember correctly the rumors said it damaged most of their testing equipment and/or killed a bunch of their scientists.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

You mean like finish their nuclear program and become a nuclear power???


Yea.. bush had them right where he wanted them lol..