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Trump - Mattis Move to Ban Most Transgendered People From Military Service.

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posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: Swills

it's not about what I think, go look into who is disqualified from joining the military and why

I don't even have to leave a comment because people who aren't totally insane know you can't take a totally bi-polar schitzo person and give them millions of dollars in equipment that can kill a real lot of people


hahaha!! Dimension B's delusions grow stronger!

also don't ask about my service, none of your business I sure as hell didn't ask you about yours




posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: CriticalStinker

oh stop it

so much virtue signalling I almost vomit


Exactly my point. You can't even stomach someone else's opinion.

I've never accepted assistance, I've always paid my taxes. I don't care if you don't like what I have to say, thankfully it's my right here.

It's unfortunate you aren't interested in finding common ground with those who aren't part of your echo chamber.

That being said, I lean right. And it sucks that I have to whisper that because some people make it seem so effing toxic.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

no they didn't they know exactly what agenda they are promoting



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:09 PM
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I've never accepted assistance, I've always paid my taxes. I don't care if you don't like what I have to say, thankfully it's my right here.


totally irrelevant, nothing to do with the discussion or topic, off the wall comment that has nothing (obviously) to do with the conversation, although I think I have an idea of what your clever spin is going to be




It's unfortunate you aren't interested in finding common ground with those who aren't part of your echo chamber.


no common ground to be found, I stand by my position

go ahead and tell me more about my echo chamber, apparently you have a semblance of an idea of what I believe based on a single post

pretending to be right while espousing marxist ideology doesn't make you right



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: carewemust
This is what it boils down to...



In a memo to Trump dated Feb. 22, Secretary of Defense James Mattis — citing a panel of expert’s “professional military judgment” and his own professional judgment — recommended the following three policies with which Trump concurred:

1. “Transgender person with a history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria are disqualified from military service, except under the following circumstances: (1) if they have been stable for 36 consecutive months in their biological sex prior to our accession; (2) Servicemembers diagnosed with gender dysphoria after entering into service may be retained if they do not require a change of gender and remain deployable with an applicable retention standards; and (3) currently serving service members who have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria since the previous administration’s policy took a fact and prior to the effective date of this new policy, may continue to serve in their preferred gender and receive medically necessary treatment for gender dysphoria.”

2. “Transgender person who require or have undergone gender transition are disqualified from military service.”

3. “Transgender person without a history or diagnosis of gender dysphoria, who are otherwise qualified for service, may serve, like all other service members, and their biological sex.”
SOURCE: abcnews.go.com...


so a transgender person goes to book camp, men or women's division?


You have to go to the bootcamp that matches whatever sex you see when standing necked in front of a full-length mirror that's not warped.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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I know I'm just pointing out some logical failures of people who think the military is a place where we should be implementing politically motivated social changes

cluueeelleeesssssssss

the military is a place that should be and used to promote toxic masculinity to prepare men for war where many of them face certain death and disfigurement not a place for people to feel good
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posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Oh, I think I see. You're of the opinion a transgender person is mentally unstable? Do you think the same of a gay person too? But come to think of it, I don't recall my mental facilities ever being questioned or tested when I joined.

Don't ask about your service? Why? Did you get dishonorably discharged or could this be a case of stolen valor?

I'm not afraid, even though you didn't ask, I was in the USN and my rate was CTO (which merged with IT shortly after I was Honorably Discharged).



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: CriticalStinker

no they didn't they know exactly what agenda they are promoting


Have you seen any polls with feedback on this issue from current service members? I wonder how the majority of those who are serving, feel about transgendered men/women joining the military?



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:13 PM
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The U.S. military needs people with sound minds. Not people that are confused about what underwear to wear, or which latrine to use. Not to mention, the "medical benefits" they'll receive to "change" their gender, if "accepted".
This is not a problem at all to the national defense. It's only an issue for a small percentage of the mentally ill that can pass the MEPS station. I know, "Navy S.E.A.L." served "hard" and now thinks he's a woman.... Blah and blah. He's a failure! To the Navy and men in general.

A very small percentage of normal people even make it to any branch of service. America doesn't need troops that can't handle their own gender, let alone duty, honor, oath, loyalty, and a sound mind.
The queer are free to be queer, in the civilian world. That's what American troops, men and women, swear to defend. Until we can get the queer "mental health" issues back on the radars... Like before 1973 when it was considered a personal mental issue and not a "national" one.
This is a good move by the POTUS.
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posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:14 PM
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You're of the opinion a transgender person is mentally unstable?


damn right it's a mental problem, your perception of self is totally detached from the reality of your physical body

it's clearly an anomaly in the system you may not "feel good" admitting that there is clearly something not normal happening there but it's still going to exist anyway

why does everyone tip-toe around this crap and put up with it?



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:15 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: carewemust

I know I'm just pointing out some logical failures of people who think the military is a place where we should be implementing politically motivated social changes


Like when Truman racially integrated the military?



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:16 PM
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Well, I'm glad you're just an armchair warrior who claims he served in the military, although I don't believe you at all. Keep hating groups of people safely from your home via the internet because at least you can't do anyone any harm.
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posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Why do you believe the Defense Department study was motivated by politics? That doesn't make sense to me. Please elaborate?



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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couldn't care any less weather you believe me and my point of view has nothing to do with hate

I know you're suppose to spin it that way because everyone that doesn't agree with you is full of hate and is the enemy who must be destroyed at all cost, even if that means committing treason and trying to overthrow a properly elected president. We need to save the world from these people.

Maybe even put them in camps.

Ya we get it. Keep the brain washing going, it's actually pretty clever.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:19 PM
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I am surprised no one has blamed this on the "White Genocide LGBT+ agenda" letting only 'cis white males' die in the army

If I am the LGBT+ person, why would I want to die for an imperialistic country that treats me and views them less than?

If I was an LGBT+ person serving now, I would just leave



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: toysforadults

Why do you believe the Defense Department study was motivated by politics? That doesn't make sense to me. Please elaborate?



it's obviously motivated by the current state of politics, I'm completely assuming you asked that from a devil's advocate point of view based on your posting history

don't ask me to point out the obvious there has been enough of that going on from both sides



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: toysforadults

I served and I don't care if a transgender person wants to serve for their country. Scratch that, I do care, anyone should be able to serve no matter what.


Even a blind, one armed, short legged, down syndrome hermaphrodite?

Good luck.
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posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Absolutely, you're right!



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

What latrine will they demand to use, I wonder?



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

You wouldn't be missed.



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