Should Fox News Parade Larry Sinclair Obama's gay lover because MSM Paraded Stormy Daniels????

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It's sad that no one is even addressing your points and are instead distracted by the shiny objects.

As soon as I saw this thread title, I knew you'd be along with the really important meat of the story that no one else would even suggest. And now that you've brought it to the thread, it is being ignored in favor of the more titillating aspects of the story as per usual.

People, can't you see that what MME has pointed out is where the focus should be rather than on what is alleged to have happened between Sinclair and Obama?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Thanks for that info, I got you.

a reply to: amfirst1

I dont think Michelle would have minded. People have no idea how super star powerful people roll.

LOL

In all seriousness, it isnt about the homsexuality. Its about the infidelity and secrecy I guess? I dont care about that. Its not my family.

Obamas coming out (if he were gay), would still be a personal experience that no one should force or exploit.

On the subject of character based on sexual preference and practice, people act like bangning a porn star is out of the norm as a billionaire. Pfft.

The wives probably have ken dolls that would make mundane men shrivel up and die inside at the sheer sight of them. Or barbies.

Rich and powerful people dont divorce after a certain point. It depends on specifics of course, but basically when people become powerful beyond just being wealthy, they see the benefit in maintaining a front marriage. Wealth is a factor as well. A split consumes vast fortunes better spent on more and better stuff to cope.

SO they dont get divorces when everything is already worked out to everyone's mutual benefit. They get thrills.

So, what will the history books write about?

Terrible presidency of Obama-

The lies of Obama?

Obama bowing to other nation's leaders?

Obama's anit-white black minister?

His lack of a verified birth certificate?

His controlling of the presidential polls for Hillary?

Saying his own son could been a thug?

His reputation at all the gay whore houses in Chicago?

His bizarre marriage to a bizarre woman?

There will be history books but what will they write about? He's the gift that keeps on giving but where are the books?

Time to let Trum trit away and clean the past disaster we enacted-Trump writing his own history book tweet by tweet mostly cause his history has been and is playing out in the public.

Who's protecting Obama? Someone is.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thanks, J&C.

It's not popular to stand by Larry Sinclair...but I do.

I was only mildly interested in seeing where Larry's story went, back then....I was certainly not outraged myself. But, when he was actually arrested at his press conference? I knew that Obama was destined and designed to be one of the most criminal presidents of all time and the most insulated from media criticism.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Nothing wrong about being gay. But at least you should embrace your true self. Not lie and hide from it.

WHo's to judge what his "true self" is? Maybe he likes to maintain a strong nuclear family...but still has an itch to scratch? That arrangement is between him and his wife. And them keeping it from their kids seems very prudent.

Its not often you'll see me defend obama. So there's that.

But by the same token...if Trump sleeps with porn stars and his wife is cool with it...who are we to judge?

If there is nothing wrong with it, why would you say it was prudent to keep it from the kids? If the extramarital aspect is the news, what difference does it make if his lover was a man or not? What about just sticking to the truth? It seems like obama gets a free pass on all of it becasue people are afraid to get called out on the race/gay card.

What do you think. Should MSM do this. I mean they are already in the mud trying to destroy Trump. Mine as well jump in the mud with them. Thoughts??

a reply to: amfirst1

First, the whole Larry Sinclair/Obama 'thing' is total bull feces, but even if it wasn't, WGAS?

Second, the Trump/Daniels 'sex thing' is NOT total bull feces, but WGAS? Even the Evangelicals have given Trump a free pass for all the sleasy extramarital sex he wants for crying out loud.

Third, the IMPORTANT thing about Trump/Daniels is the cover-up, lies, and likely illegal use of campaign funds to pay hush money.

Fourth, the OTHER important thing about Trump/Daniels is the credibility that it gives to idea that Trump is a dead-set sexual degenerate and that 'pee-pee' tape the Russians are more than rumored to possess may be what is giving them so much leverage over Trump.

a reply to: Metallicus

Not Give a Rats Ass gets it here Obviously .

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Hm. People were obviously so deprived of information about Larry's story that they seem to believe it's only about extramarital, consensual sex....or the *gay* part.

If it was JUST that, then I would agree it's not worth reporting. However, Larry's story really starts AFTER he made his allegations. The retaliation he faced is absolutely egregious. IMO, it's one of the biggest political scandals in modern U.S. history.

The media utterly FAILED the public in burying Larry's story and spending what little coverage they gave (only Politico and Slate, IIRC) to just smear the guy without reporting any of the details of his allegations. I believe that one of them just called them "naughty" allegations.

The media made up your minds for you.

They didn't even give you a chance to consider Larry's story. You probably shouldn't respect them for that.

It will never be too late to expose what happened to Larry. If people cared about their Constitutional protections, they would care about Larry's story.

Fox News didnt even pick up the story , that should give you a good idea on how credible the accusations were.

a reply to: amfirst1

Should Fox News Parade Larry Sinclair Obama's gay lover because MSM Paraded Stormey Daniels???

Interesting question. Especially in terms of the word "should," which implies some kind of duty or imperative to do so, rather than simply doing it because one can.

For the most part, when it comes to non-criminal activities with consenting parties, I see no value or virtue in dragging anyone's dirty laundry through the mud, including presidents. Trump's misadventures are between him and Melania and the other consenting parties. Obama's initial misadventures are between him and Michelle and the other consenting parties.

There could be some value in discussing the double standard. Why did the MSM cover-up the allegations of improper relationships for Obama, but not allegations of improper relationships against Trump? Such a discussion could be had without even addressing the "whos" and therefore avoid the gay factor, keeping the topic strictly on the double standards by the MSM.

But there's a more sinister factor to consider. In Trump's situation, we've been told how important it is because of the nondisclosure agreements possibly using campaign funds for cash settlements -- "hush" money. But we're still talking about non-criminal activities between consenting parties. In Obama's situation with Sinclair, the actions taken against Mr. Sinclair -- including false criminal charges and incarceration, including medical neglect to the point of abuse -- are potential criminal acts perpetrated on a non-consenting party. Big difference there. Trump used lawful means to protect his interests... Obama abused the legal system to protect his interests.

And far more disturbing, at least according to some, two other young men Obama had relations with who were killed to protect Obama's interests.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

Was Senator Obama married at the time he and Mr. Sinclair were supposedly “lovers”?

Yes.

Had Mrs. Obama, if there was one at that time, just given birth to the Senator’s child?

"Just given birth" is a relative term; but, yes, Malia was born within the previous year of the claimed encounters between Obama and Sinclair.

If the answer to either of these questions is not a verifiable “Yes”, than you are trying to compare “apples to oranges” with regard to the “allegations” raised by Ms. Daniels, and that is hardly the “equal justice” you seem to be arguing for.

The answer to both of those question is a verifiable "yes," as you would have known if you had bothered to do your due diligence.

In fact, it seems like nothing more than the kind of partisan-inspired factless mud-slinging you seem to be decrying.

Fact-less indeed. Is your Google broken? Who is the one without facts? But somehow still felt qualified to comment???

Hypocrisy, much?

Willful ignorance much???

a reply to: Boadicea

a reply to: MotherMayEye

That’s not the reason Larry’s story should be reported by the media...although Obama was running on an anti-same sex marriage platform back when Larry came forward.

The profound reasons Larry should get coverage is because he was arrested at his press conference on a bogus warrant issued by Beau Biden’s Delaware AG office (on phony charges of not paying a hotel bill), unlawfully imprisoned, denied his prescription medication, and once he was finally released, all the made up charges were dropped. Not long after, his government disability benefits were terminated. Oh, and Joe Biden was named Obama's running mate just a few weeks after Larry was arrested on that bogus warrant!

I don’t care if Larry and Obama had sex or not, but Obama was never asked about it and he never denied Larry’s claims.

AND even if Larry was lying...NONE of the retaliation against him was a lawful method of dealing with a defamation case.

Also, some people might also care that it was allegedly Obama’s own drug dealer that provided the crack and coc aine that Larry says he and Obama used during their weekend tryst, in 1999.

So, YES!!!! Larry deserves the same coverage Stormy has gotten. He has endured great injustices...whether you believe he is a liar or not. His Constitutional rights were violated and he was unlawfully imprisoned!

Bravo! And thank you!!!

I just tried to make the same basic points, but thought yours was worth repeating.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Hm. People were obviously so deprived of information about Larry's story that they seem to believe it's only about extramarital, consensual sex....or the *gay* part.

If it was JUST that, then I would agree it's not worth reporting. However, Larry's story really starts AFTER he made his allegations. The retaliation he faced is absolutely egregious. IMO, it's one of the biggest political scandals in modern U.S. history.

The media utterly FAILED the public in burying Larry's story and spending what little coverage they gave (only Politico and Slate, IIRC) to just smear the guy without reporting any of the details of his allegations. I believe that one of them just called them "naughty" allegations.

The media made up your minds for you.

They didn't even give you a chance to consider Larry's story. You probably shouldn't respect them for that.

It will never be too late to expose what happened to Larry. If people cared about their Constitutional protections, they would care about Larry's story.

Fox News didnt even pick up the story , that should give you a good idea on how credible the accusations were.

The media's negligence in reporting on Larry is an indication of how Obama was treated with kid gloves by the press.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

Fox News didnt even pick up the story , that should give you a good idea on how credible the accusations were.

wow you actually swallowed the lie that fox news is independent free media, lol.

news flash for you fox news is MSM deep state controlled just as much as CNN is, fox is meant to appear like the counter to cnn but in reality they have the same puppet masters. its all an illusion a stage, designed to trick the nation, meant to drive the majority of both political parties to the same source of news without them realizing it, just like it tricked you.
if you'd like to see some examples of fox shilling propaganda just look up any one of the dozens of pieces fox news has done ridiculing questions about 9/11 as "outrageous conspiracy theories by nut jobs" they were entirely supportive of bush right through the iraq war they were entirely supportive of bush's speech where he said "lets us not tolerate dangerous conspiracy theories about 911" they have repeatedly demolished any one who doesnt fit into their mainstream conservative narrative, they demolished and cheated ron paul during his campaign, omfg i could just go on for days,
ive been paying attention to how much of what they do is bull# these past couple decades. have you?

a reply to: Pyle

Fox News didnt even pick up the story , that should give you a good idea on how credible the accusations were.

You must think a lot more of Fox News than I do!

Their lack of coverage is a much better indication of how credible Fox News is...

a reply to: MotherMayEye

They covered it up very well. I never heard of Larry Sinclair till i saw this thread. His story does deserve to be heard. I don't know if it's true, but i don't see why he would come forward and tell it otherwise. What would be his motive to make it all up? It costs him his life.

The part that is hard to understand is the limo driver calling up Barry O like some type of escort/gigilo and he coming right over. Seems odd the way he claims it happened. Obama was married at the time and it doesn't seem like he would just be hooking up with random strangers that could identify him and talk. Then again, what do i know...A compelling story, nonetheless.

originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: MotherMayEye

They covered it up very well. I never heard of Larry Sinclair till i saw this thread. His story does deserve to be heard. I don't know if it's true, but i don't see why he would come forward and tell it otherwise. What would be his motive to make it all up? It costs him his life.

The part that is hard to understand is the limo driver calling up Barry O like some type of escort/gigilo and he coming right over. Seems odd the way he claims it happened. Obama was married at the time and it doesn't seem like he would just be hooking up with random strangers that could identify him and talk. Then again, what do i know...A compelling story, nonetheless.

Larry is still alive. Someone planted a story that he was killed -- perhaps to discredit anyone who repeated it???

Larry is not the only man alleged to have had sex with Obama. There was also Donald Young, who was a choir director at Obama's church in Chicago. Unlike Larry, Donald Young is actually dead. He was murdered in December 2007, when he opened his front door and was shot in the head. His murder remains unsolved.

Larry filed an affidavit with the Chicago police stating he was in communication with Donald Young before his death and that Donald told him that he and Obama had sex. And, IIRC, Donald Young's mother once stated she believed Obama was connected to her son's death in an interview with a tabloid (I can't recall which one, atm).

I would not doubt Obama had a gay lover and I realize Trump was with all kind of women,So was J.F.K.Wecome to the NWO fellas.Liberals believe anything told to them by governments.

originally posted by: amfirst1
So Senator Obama had a gay lover name Larry Sinclair who was a coke head at the time. Even though Larry Sinclair took a lie detector and testified under oath, the fake news gave him zero air time. youtu.be...

Would it be equal justice to parade him like fake news parade Stormy Daniels? I just think it would be hilarious if they did. Quick,someone pass the talking points!!!

What do you think. Should MSM do this. I mean they are already in the mud trying to destroy Trump. Mine as well jump in the mud with them. Thoughts??

I don't understand, how is fake news parading stormy daniels? Are you assuming her story is fake? If so, then why was Trumps lawyer saying she violated the NDA?