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New Hotel footage finally released of Vegas shooter that covers days leading to shooting

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posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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We know for a fact that these videos ignore some very important events. For example where is the video footage of the women he was hanging out with? Who visited his room? Why not show that video. We know there were prostitutes, but it's not shown.

Why not Saudi arm dealers or ISIS members? Bet there were a few that paid a visit.




posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: SevenThunders
were there no cameras in the corridor to show him blasting the door with bullets?
How long were the trolleys left outside in the corridor? Were there any cameras showing this or him putting up surveilance in the corridor?

If they had this footage all along, then they would have released it as proof ages ago. Considering it is an MGM hotel, forgive me for being skeptical regarding the production of this footage, as it is not like we don't have the technology to construct a video to show a particular narrative, now is it?



posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 08:49 PM
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He was a frequent visitor for years at the hotel and casino right? Seems like they could have just compiled footage from years showing him with suitcases.

This is taking so long because MGM is very powerful and knows it going to get sued out of existence.



posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 08:54 PM
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He was selling guns...

He wasn't bringing all those guns to shoot people.. you'd never use all those guns before the authorities were knocking on your door

He was selling guns to some middle eastern stooges. He kept going home to package the guns in the bags so they wouldnt rattle and bang and make the bellhop suspicious.

the 2nd room he rented was probably a preparation or go to area incase his house got raided.

They killed him, took the guns and fired on the crowd.. they buyers wanted the press, fbi all over this transaction to expose the CIA



posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: dothedew
This is definitely just a little something to feed to the press and people to show that they are making some "headway" on the investigation.

It took this long for a surveillance video to be released that has been around since day one, I don't even want to know how long it's going to be until any fabricated "details" are released.

Now I see someone made the point that it's not a surprise that he was acting calm and nonchalant prior to the incident. The issue I have, is why so many weapons were needed if this REALLY WAS supposed to be just a random shooting by a maniac? 2-3 tops to compensate for overheating issues... not dozens.

If we had the time, we could keep watch of all the footage and see if any known governments agents and/or people on any watch lists show up at the same hotel within the time time period (to attempt to verify the "deal gone wrong" theory) but that would require a lot of time and a sharp eye.

I've said it before: Paddock was an illegal arms dealer. It's the only explanation that makes sense of why he would bother hauling so many guns up to that room. He was planning to sell them. But it turns out he was the sucker in his last deal.


Nice theory, but it still says nothing about who actually did the shooting and why (I've heard it was Saudis, ISIS, and many others)

The Parkland recent one, Pulse Night Club, and many others have similar mysteries we will never understand..



posted on Mar, 22 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
He was a frequent visitor for years at the hotel and casino right? Seems like they could have just compiled footage from years showing him with suitcases.

This is taking so long because MGM is very powerful and knows it going to get sued out of existence.


A very good hypothesis.. I haven't heard this before other than his history at the casino... using that history to use any footage to build the story? seems plausible



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 01:57 AM
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So is this or is this not Paddock gambling after the Vegas shooting? Plus, with 21 bags having supposedly been taken up to his room, where are the pics of all these bags in the room. They must have taken up a fair amount of space, and I don't remember them being mentioned at the time of reporting of the numerous guns which were reported a lot.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 06:08 AM
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a reply to: Thirty6BelowZero

That is not particularly unusual in the case of people who succeed in carrying out serious violence. The reason that they succeed is that they give no reason for anyone to be suspicious of them. If everyone about nefarious business was in the habit of making it obvious, no one would get away with anything.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: FamCore

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: dothedew
This is definitely just a little something to feed to the press and people to show that they are making some "headway" on the investigation.

It took this long for a surveillance video to be released that has been around since day one, I don't even want to know how long it's going to be until any fabricated "details" are released.

Now I see someone made the point that it's not a surprise that he was acting calm and nonchalant prior to the incident. The issue I have, is why so many weapons were needed if this REALLY WAS supposed to be just a random shooting by a maniac? 2-3 tops to compensate for overheating issues... not dozens.

If we had the time, we could keep watch of all the footage and see if any known governments agents and/or people on any watch lists show up at the same hotel within the time time period (to attempt to verify the "deal gone wrong" theory) but that would require a lot of time and a sharp eye.

I've said it before: Paddock was an illegal arms dealer. It's the only explanation that makes sense of why he would bother hauling so many guns up to that room. He was planning to sell them. But it turns out he was the sucker in his last deal.


Nice theory, but it still says nothing about who actually did the shooting and why (I've heard it was Saudis, ISIS, and many others)

I go with the Saudis. It was an attempt to assassinate the crown prince (the guy who was seen being escorted out of a nearby casino) that went seriously bad.

The ISIS theory is tenuous at best. As far as I can tell, the thought is that Paddock's Filipino girlfriend was his ISIS handler. I haven't seen any evidence that backs this up, however, while the Saudi theory has solid circumstantial support: the crown prince was there, his retinue was staying on the top floors of the Mandalay Bay, and the purge of Saudi royalty happened just a month after the LV shooting.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: dothedew
This is definitely just a little something to feed to the press and people to show that they are making some "headway" on the investigation.

It took this long for a surveillance video to be released that has been around since day one, I don't even want to know how long it's going to be until any fabricated "details" are released.

Now I see someone made the point that it's not a surprise that he was acting calm and nonchalant prior to the incident. The issue I have, is why so many weapons were needed if this REALLY WAS supposed to be just a random shooting by a maniac? 2-3 tops to compensate for overheating issues... not dozens.

If we had the time, we could keep watch of all the footage and see if any known governments agents and/or people on any watch lists show up at the same hotel within the time time period (to attempt to verify the "deal gone wrong" theory) but that would require a lot of time and a sharp eye.

I've said it before: Paddock was an illegal arms dealer. It's the only explanation that makes sense of why he would bother hauling so many guns up to that room. He was planning to sell them. But it turns out he was the sucker in his last deal.


As far as I recall, the guns in the room were all owned, legally, by Paddock. No Black Market arms dealer is going to sell someone a gun that's in their name and implicate themselves in any crime that gun may be used in....



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: djz3ro

As far as I recall, the guns in the room were all owned, legally, by Paddock. No Black Market arms dealer is going to sell someone a gun that's in their name and implicate themselves in any crime that gun may be used in....


Jeffrey Alan Lash spent crazy amounts of cash to build up an arsenal of 1,200 firearms, six and half tons of ammunition and explosive-making materials, all found in his house he shared with his fiancee after he died. Some of the explosives were weeping. He owned all the stuff too, was also a little odd..well a deal odd, since he told his girl friend he was ex-CIA, and seemingy wasn't, and acted the part out. He also had twelve vehicles, one was amphibious, another bullet-proof. He died in his car outside his house, and sat there for a fortnight, and none of the weapons were ever used....weird stuff alright, but nothing to say that he was anything but a Walter Mitty type.

edit on 23-3-2018 by smurfy because: Text.



posted on Mar, 23 2018 @ 02:34 PM
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the most obvious holes to me, are the lack of video and the lack of ability to fire so many weapons. people have said it before, its vegas there should be way more video. maybe they wont release it but there has to be more video of him around that they can use. unless the cameras everywhere really dont work and they dont want to admit that haha. why so many guns for one guy? the only line of thinking i can find logical is this; pick up rifle, empty clip, drop, go to the next one. changing magazines is one thing, filling magazines is another.

Lots of events like this or even other little events always have holes. unfortunately it comes with the territory of being human. Our brains arent exactly cameras, we still interpret. which leaves room for subconscious manipulation of experienced events.



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 12:46 AM
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posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 01:23 AM
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It just doesnt make sense that he woudl need THAT many guns to carry out that crime.

Dont get me wrong , I believe he did it.

But there has to be another part of the story, another motive, something else going on.

You would only need that .308 with lots of pre loaded mags and a bumpstock to accomplish that.

You dont need the rest of the firearms, nor were they all used.

It doesnt add up.



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 01:25 AM
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originally posted by: detachment3
the most obvious holes to me, are the lack of video and the lack of ability to fire so many weapons. people have said it before, its vegas there should be way more video. maybe they wont release it but there has to be more video of him around that they can use. unless the cameras everywhere really dont work and they dont want to admit that haha. why so many guns for one guy? the only line of thinking i can find logical is this; pick up rifle, empty clip, drop, go to the next one. changing magazines is one thing, filling magazines is another.

Lots of events like this or even other little events always have holes. unfortunately it comes with the territory of being human. Our brains arent exactly cameras, we still interpret. which leaves room for subconscious manipulation of experienced events.


not even that makes sense because with that amount of planning he would have tons of pre loaded mags, and it would take less time to drop a mag , than to grab another firearm and line up sites again , and fire........

Its way more efficient to drop your mag and continue firing than to switch firearms.



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 01:28 AM
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a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Thats clearly not the same guy



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

not even that makes sense because with that amount of planning he would have tons of pre loaded mags, and it would take less time to drop a mag , than to grab another firearm and line up sites again , and fire........

Its way more efficient to drop your mag and continue firing than to switch firearms.


good point, didnt think of that, shows how terrible i am at this stuff lol.

too many guns for 1 guys is really all im saying idk, sounds fishy.



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: detachment3

originally posted by: SailorJerry

not even that makes sense because with that amount of planning he would have tons of pre loaded mags, and it would take less time to drop a mag , than to grab another firearm and line up sites again , and fire........

Its way more efficient to drop your mag and continue firing than to switch firearms.


good point, didnt think of that, shows how terrible i am at this stuff lol.

too many guns for 1 guys is really all im saying idk, sounds fishy.


No youre right, I have my suspicious too it doesnt make sense.

I have 2 friends that were there, one was shot. the sounds they heard didnt add up. something is not right



posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry
a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Thats clearly not the same guy


How can you say that? In what way is it clearly not the same person, in your eyes? To me it is clearly someone who is very very similar, even have similar slightly squint/uneven nostrils, ridged brow, fatty deposits in areas of his face, high bald forehead, facial hair, beer belly, gambling habbit. Thre is even a slight bump on the right side of the face (left as you are looking at the picture) where he has a mole on his cheek in line with the corner of his mouth.



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posted on Mar, 25 2018 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: SailorJerry

sorry to hear that, hope there ok

unfortunately witness statements are rarely useful in a mass like this. the brain isnt exactly a camera, so things can be subconsciously manipulated.



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