'UFO' races past passenger jet shocking locals.

a reply to: CaptainBeno

There was video of a military jet with a smaller disc flying with it some years ago .

a reply to: Willtell

Hey, we're getting a lot of powerful UFO stuff lately. Maybe its just because of the positive press regarding the TDL material.

Edge of seat , excited by all the recent hoaxes, breeding a bunch more... hoaxes.

originally posted by: Oaktree
I’m with the other people saying escort jet.

Passenger plane, maybe dignitaries of some sort, w/ military escort.

originally posted by: SR1TX
There would be a contrail and it would fly directly starboard or port. And escort would never overtake the other mid flight, get behind, or fly that close, to them.

No -- not an escort, but two (probably) unrelated planes. And maybe both of them regular passenger jets, with one flying a couple thousand feet higher and "behind" (from the point of view of the camera) the other.

I'm not sure, but I'd say the plane making the contrail is the one that is higher/farther away, and the plane NOT making the contrail is lower/closer to the camera. The differing altitudes or different parts of the sky could be the reason on is producing a contrail and the other isn't.

As for the one overtaking the other, they might both be flying a roughly the same speed, but the one seems to be much faster/overtakes the other could only appear to be flying faster because it is closer to us (plus maybe it could flying be slightly faster, too).

a reply to: InhaleExhale

The reason we see something different is because it is impossible to tell distance in this kind of video.

a reply to: CaptainBeno

Difficult to say. Is the pax jet making a 90 deg bank in the end.
Silly hoaxy music tho

a reply to: scraedtosleep


Doesn't it look like the smaller object is actually interacting with the jet's contrail. Disrupting the stream because it's in contact with it?

well I saw shapes.

That's me convinced......

a reply to: carewemust

When I pause the video the trail appears unchanged. Can you give me a time stamp to look at ?

If this was really an UFO and it was this bright and we assume that the perspective is not fooling us and it was really being close to the plane, don't you think that someone on that plane should've snapped some pictures and film videos? It's not like people don't look thru the windows. So, here's a trail that can be picked up: Get timestamp, try to narrow down a flight number and try to get in contact with people/pilots who were on that flight. that last part is extremely problematic of course. Unless th UFO stayed totally out of the viewing angles of the portside windows. See how many 'if's' we have?

I'm more inclined towards 'two jets mixed up by perspective, distance and height' theory, but who knows?

a reply to: RazorV66

The person filming may have felt that getting the wires in frame helps give some perspective/reference. I didn't find the filming to bad considering the amount of zoom they must have been using. Have you ever tried filming anything at distance without a tripod? It's much harder than it looks.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: seagull

That was a digital zoom.

Since when does digital zoom increase image clarity?

This is at least a viable clip for discussion. If it's fake they did a good job of not going too crazy with the special effects.

It didn't. It created a lens flare.

No - there isn't lens flare - but in the video it looks like when they edited the video, they zoomed in on just one frame and paused it briefly so you could see the detail. Unless both the UFO and the Aircraft both paused motionless in flight.....

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Jerseymilker
Watching the start of the video until the object passes the jet, the object stays right on the edge of the white trail left by the jet, that does not seem right. I have no idea what the object is, but i'm saying it's not an alien UFO. It's also strange how the person filming is moving his cell around so much trying to capture what is going on, when it should have been good enough to just hold up his cell and film tilting or turning it to follow the jet. All that movement in my mind is trying to take away from the object itself. And then the robotic voice to describe what's going on. If he were really filming such an exciting event where is his chatter and the chatter of folks standing close to him? I call hoax on this one.

Looks like lens flare to me. It is parallel to the object that is moving.

It doesn't look anything like lens flare/light reflection within the lens - ridiculous statement. When reflections occur inside the lens, as the lens moves, so too does the reflection. Your earlier statements regards the person shooting moving the camera around should surely have prompted you to think about how impossible it would be for the 'reflection' to stay in the same relative position, behind the aircraft, gradually overtaking it.

Had it been a reflection, every shake, movement or pan would see the reflection dart in and out of frame.

C'mon!

double post.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: stormcell

originally posted by: Jerseymilker
Watching the start of the video until the object passes the jet, the object stays right on the edge of the white trail left by the jet, that does not seem right. I have no idea what the object is, but i'm saying it's not an alien UFO. It's also strange how the person filming is moving his cell around so much trying to capture what is going on, when it should have been good enough to just hold up his cell and film tilting or turning it to follow the jet. All that movement in my mind is trying to take away from the object itself. And then the robotic voice to describe what's going on. If he were really filming such an exciting event where is his chatter and the chatter of folks standing close to him? I call hoax on this one.

Looks like lens flare to me. It is parallel to the object that is moving.

It definitely looks like a trick of the light. Especially where the blob jumps out at the camera? Or was it a camera zoom? Anyway, it held no detail? It looked washed out. Just like an over exposed flash of light? And how do we know if the video was doctored in anyway? A simple reflection of light manipulated with animation software?

Anyone ever think of researching what flight was filmed. Funny nothing was reported when the object got ahead of the jet. I would think the pilots of the jet would have been very concerned about a midair collision?

No trick of the light. There's no reason to say there is trickery in this video. There's no optical illusion. Nothing jumps out of the camera. The camera is poor - there's no useful image data when the zoomed portion that is paused is edited in - it shows nothing but pixelated low quality, low resolution, digital zoom. That's the part that you see as 'jumping out'.

It looks nothing like light reflections within the lens.

As for mid air collision - whilst from the ground, the aspect is such that the aircraft and the 'UFO' look to occupying very close airspace, as others have pointed out, they could be separated vertically by Kilometers!

Its a very interesting video but I think its probably just a visual illusion.

You can tell that the objects are far away from the camera, but you can not tell how far away they are from each other. If they are both travelling at the same speed, but one of them is considerably closer to the camera than they other, the closer object will appear to be moving faster than the one that is farthest away. To exaggerate this effect imagine two planes flying at 600 mph. One is several miles away. It appears to very slowly traverse the sky. The other passes you a quarter mile away. You could snap your own neck trying to follow it across the sky that quickly. That same difference in altitude/location could explain the absence of a vapor trail from one of the aircraft.

Not a definite explanation, but plausible.

originally posted by: neutronflux
Or a small drone was flying thousands of feet below the jet. Somebody was trying to make it look like it was flying up the contrail. The camera movement was aiding in that illusion by moving perspective. Would also explain the lack of detail when the object is zoomed on.

When filming the aircraft and the UFO from these distances, the person filming had no control over the 'illusion' or perspective. Whilst his panning, and camera movement may not be to people's taste, he did at least try to get the wires into frame to give some reference.

The lack of detail when zoomed in has nothing to do with the changing perspective, but has everything to do with a lack of optical zoom, poor digital zoom on an average quality lens and sensor combination, as found on low cost phones or instant cameras. Probably a small CMOS sensor with very low Dynamic range.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Its a very interesting video but I think its probably just a visual illusion.

You can tell that the objects are far away from the camera, but you can not tell how far away they are from each other. If they are both travelling at the same speed, but one of them is considerably closer to the camera than they other, the closer object will appear to be moving faster than the one that is farthest away. To exaggerate this effect imagine two planes flying at 600 mph. One is several miles away. It appears to very slowly traverse the sky. The other passes you a quarter mile away. You could snap your own neck trying to follow it across the sky that quickly. That same difference in altitude/location could explain the absence of a vapor trail from one of the aircraft.

Not a definite explanation, but plausible.

Parallax.

The aircraft and the UFO could be separated by Kilometers, but in the same air lane. We just don't know from the shooter's perspective. Or we could indeed be watching a UFO flying up the chuff of a conventional aircraft. We just cant tell from this footage alone.

But the amount of drivel some people here are coming out with - it's unbelievable!! Look how many posts allude to the video being fake, manipulated or the shooter deliberately trying to mislead the viewer by 'creating' an 'illusion' by filming it in a way to deceive us. Or whining on about the robot voice!

I don't like robot voice either, but lots of people who post videos prefer to use robot voice because they aren't confident narrating their videos or have a speech impediment. It doesn't have any bearing at all on the validity of a video.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: tommyjo

This guy in Lincoln, New Hampshire has history. What he does is film the air traffic on the upper air routes to the east of Lincoln, NH. No doubt he is also observing flight tracking software looking out for the paired airliners. He then films from his porch with a poor quality camera phone and passes it off as "UFO" footage. All he is filming are two airliners using the same upper air route but they are actually separated by thousands of feet hence one aircraft has contrails and the other doesn't

Thought so.


actually my first thought was a joke thinking have the Chemtrail crowd finally gotten their act together and hired a plane to sample that massive "chemtrail".

Finally - proof that UFOs can produce invisible chemtrails...... :p LMFAO

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: scraedtosleep

But n this video it appears that the object is ether directly in the contrail path or further up than the jet is. How much further up from the jet it is will be impossible to tell. It's theoretically possible that the ufo is out in space.

I see the opposite.

That the object in question is lower.

You may have been right - except that the object as it passes the contrail is clearly behind the trail, not in front of it. Watch the video.

a reply to: horatio321

No one should assume that the jet leaving the contrails is a passenger jet. It looks like it could be. But the video is so low in resolution that even during the zoomed-in part, there's no real way to tell. Are there signs of 4 engines? I thought it may have had 4 engines but it's a long shot. Is it a large delta shaped aircraft? Are there only 2 trails or 4? Was it commercial, passenger or military?

As for the UFO - there's very little detail. No nothing - no wings, no engines, no trails. Nada.

I'd like to see a proper, un-edited version of this video. 480 resolution is just to low to make out anything useful. Especially as it's been compressed and reduced in quality by YouTube still further.

Interesting video though.