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Trump to unveil opioid plan seeking death penalty for drug dealers

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posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: YouSir

No drug dealer ever had to force someone to buy. What happened to supply and demand? Is that really a crime a now?


I was a 13 year old lad, walking the streets of my city, when from a dark, sinister looking, alley, a figure appeared. He motioned me over, and curious and innocent, I went. "Hey kid, take this. It's gonna make you flyyyy" he said, in a hissing devious voice. I took it, and was forever in the grasp of the evil narcotic. I would crawl, hands and knees bleeding, to that alley way, begging just for one more hit. He would laugh "Har har har, back for more aye?" and make me dance like a puppet on a string for my fix. And I'd dance.

Excuse me now, I have to put on my purple unitard and go visit uncy Rupert.

^ that's how people think it is, but it's no different than going to the store and buying a bottle of jacks. Except you don't need the unitard... you just have to pay the man, and leave.




posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: DerBeobachter
Reuters
I guess some people in the "U"S big pharma and the health "care" business should have to sleep not that well anymore:


President Donald Trump will unveil a plan on Monday to combat the opioid addiction crisis that includes seeking the death penalty for drug dealers and urging Congress to toughen sentencing laws for drug traffickers, White House officials said on Sunday.


Trafficking, i have to think of the CIA, the miltary, i have to think of Laos, the Golden Triangle, Air America, at the time of the vietnam war. And now it´s Afghanistan. Since the "U"S and the NATO interventions Afghanistan produces 90% of the world wide used opium. Before these interventions it were only 20%, short before the interventions the Taliban even brought it down to 0%. Then the interventions started and... yeah, i know, only coincidences, nobody in the west profits from the worldwide opium business...

Who produced the pills that made the most now opium addicted "U"S citizens addicted? Who has written the prescriptions, opium pills for/against everything, again and again, till the people couldn´t pay for them anymore?

But i am pretty sure that are not the traffickers and dealers that Trump meant, i guess he meant the darker skinned dealers on the streets, that give those that are addicted now, because of the "U"S health "care" system and the "U"S big pharma, what they think they need.

Since i heard this news, i have to think the whole time of ...Double D, Donald Duterte, can´t get it out of my head anymore.


So America will join the ranks of these fine countries then...



 Bahrain
Bangladesh 
Brunei 
China
 Cuba 
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Egypt
 India
Indonesia
 Iran
Iraq 
Jordan 
Kuwait 
Laos 
Libya
 Malaysia
Myanmar
North Korea 
Oman
 Qatar
 Pakistan 
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
South Sudan
Sri Lanka 
Sudan 
Syria
 Taiwan 
Thailand
 United Arab Emirates


Lol ya go America



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254


Ummm...I wouldn't say...most people...I would say a percentage...now what that percentage is...I frankly haven't done the research...

As to the big pharma question...we should take a closer look at prescribing these meds so easily...

Another point is that Trump always starts bargaining from hyperbolic high position...knowing that compromise always carries to somewhere in the middle of the extreme positions...







YouSir



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: Indrasweb


It's hilarious to read that people seem to be saying that all these heroin dealers are really just doing a service to the community; helping out all those poor people who can't get their scripts filled. As though they're doing a damn public service.


Who did that? No one in this thread.

I think everyone is in agreement that if you sell hard drugs, you're a strain on society.

I just don't advocate my government killing people for it.

Its millions of dollars per execution. That's my tax money. And they get out of a long stint in prison. Easy out if you ask me.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

I have done the research. Dependency starts after just a few days. Even with a one day script there is a 6% risk of continued use a year later. At five days that jumps to 13%. And at 30 it jumps to 30%.

And those are just the people that continue. Like I said above, after just a few days of use any person is going to become physically dependent on the drug. They just don't realize that's what they're experiencing so they don't pursue other methods to procure the drug.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:38 AM
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Jesus...

Granted, im only going off of the scant info in the op (not reading any stories), but if this is true it would not stand SCOTUS review.

Pushing the string vs pulling the string....he really needs to understand human psychology a little better to learn how to LEAD people to better results.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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Noice! We have a new model for 'dealing' with the poor as well now, highly scaleable.

OD them all?




posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Ain't Gon happen. that would be government suicide. You can't just kill people who don't kill. It'd be like they are shooting the first shot to see how far as a county government & civilians can get killing each other. Not gonna happen. If you justify or back these disgusting remarks or unjustified murder, shame on you. When drugs go around, people choose their fate. When someone blows something up or shoots a lot of people, no one chooses their own fate, that's execution worthy.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:55 AM
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I think something else worth pointing out about this is that of the top 10 states with the highest drug overdose death rates, the majority have outlawed the death penalty.

So this law wouldn't even apply to the states having the most trouble with the opioid epidemic.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 09:59 AM
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BREAKING NEWS: Internet addiction is now considered a drug based on the fact that with every click and post comes a dose of serotonin. Scientists are now suggesting that people who spend "significant time" posting on Facebook, Instagram, Reddit or any of the thousands of other socials media and message boards online, could be considered drug dealers if they log more than 3 hours a day online.

Trump tweeted from his Mar a Lago estate that he is "directing the DOJ to track the IP addresses of these sertonin (sic) addicts and put them in front of the judge, they will get whats coming to them, sad"

Sarah Huckabee Sanders wasn't able to add any comments to Trumps morning tweet ritual as she was "busy clearing her cookies and looking up good VPNs".



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

Trump is such an idiot..

They need to be legalizing things and providing a pharmaceutical grade option that has regulated doses.

Opiate addicts don’t cause problems when they get high.. they cause problems when they are detoxing.


If you have low grade cheap alternatives readily available Then there is no need to lie cheat and steal..


Plus the OD’s drop because addicts know how much they are doing.

With street drugs you have no idea the potency.


Sweden started a free heroin clinic and cut felonies by heroin addicts by 60% in ONE YEAR.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

What does that have to do with ANYTHING when no drug related crime carries the death penalty..

Talk about reaching..



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:04 AM
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a reply to: SatansPride

Lol every nation on the planet has killed people for non-violent acts.

Plus right now we rREGULARLY lock people in a concrete box FOR YEARS, because they got high..

Plus trump is retarded..

Be afraid lol.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: DerBeobachter

The people who have caused the majority of the opioid crisis, are the people who have been overprescribing these drugs, for years, to make friendly with pharma representatives and sales people, to get the perks and kickbacks that see private doctors swimming in bloody dollar bills. Its the representatives, the executives, the bankers who bankroll these operations... those individuals are the problem.

Your street level dealer has next door to no ability either alone or all together, to cause a crisis like the US has right now. As usual, Trump is pissing on an oil fire, while ignoring the carbon dioxide foam altogether.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: YouSir

You mean trump constantly makes promises that are both impossible and retarded..



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


If you have low grade cheap alternatives readily available Then there is no need to lie cheat and steal..


Hahahaahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahhaahahah.

OK bub.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

Oh it won’t..

It will be random poor folks, maybe the old lady down the street who sells her script for grocery money..





They don’t hold billionaires accountable for anything and it is hilarious if you think billionaire trump is planning on changing that.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Oh good, Trump is trying to force his love for Duterte on the whole country.

The opioid epidemic is a complex issue. If Trump's solution is to kill drug dealers then he clearly doesn't actually understand the issue. Especially since it's been shown in study after study that the death penalty does not act as a deterrent for any crime.


yes, some don't understand nothing to loose



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I'm pointing out the fact how dumb such a law would since even if it did do anything to help the opioid epidemic (it wouldn't) it wouldn't apply to the states where the opioid epidemic is at it's worst.

I'm 100% against this law. Which you would have seen of you had actually bothered to read the thread.



posted on Mar, 19 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

2013 is around when fentanyl started getting put in hero(n) to a better cut.

Labs all over the world are pumping it out, like China. Mainly China.



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