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Why does the left support World Government?

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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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The left used to believe in Nation States. However, they complete moved to the extreme far left into International Socialism territory which is allied with the Globalists.

In a world government system much like the EU. There are unelected bureaucrats appointed by the Central Bankers who determine the laws, thus, override the duly elected government and people's voices within the nation-state.

They want lopsided treaties that override the will of the people and open borders which will eliminate the need for nation-state and make it easier to implement a World Government under the control of the elite bankers. I understand why the Bankers want a world government, so they can implement laws that will override all nation-state laws which will make it easier for control. They won't have to spend a lot of resources by co-opt one nation at a time and put their puppets in, which can be costly. They can just do it across the spectrum as soon as all the countries are merged together much like the EU.

I don't understand why the left wants this system. How would the leftist poor and middle class benefit from a system like this? Their voices will be completely eliminated.
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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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They will use the population of this country as soldiers if Europe gains control. We will also be all turned into working surfs, expected to work our tails off for just enough to survive so certain countries citizens can sit around and reap the benefit. Nobody here believes that any of us will actually benefit by this I hope, maybe the elites with some royal blood line might get good jobs.


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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1

I don't understand why the left wants this system. How would the leftist poor and middle class benefit from a system like this? Their voices will be completely eliminated.


The left doesn't care if the poor and the middle class benefit,
they only pretend to care as a means of getting votes.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Don't they care about their children's future? I rather die with dangerous freedom than be a peaceful slave as Benjamin Franklin once put it.
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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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We already have a world government... For the most part anyways..


Where do countries settle disputes?
The United Nations.

What governs (almost) every nation on Earth?
NPT (proliferation) - Geneva Convention (international law).


There is more as well, but they’re the 2 big ones.

They balance these with a slice of sovereignty for member States.




And to further answer your question...
I think 99% of folks, whether Left/Centre/Right/Non-Spectrum Earthlings, all support some sort of WG vision if it could actually live up to their personal ideals.

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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

The bulk of them I suspect are just falling for the scam. They have been led to believe that they are somehow kinder, more empathic and more intelligent, fighting for the global agenda.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:21 PM
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What is going to happen when our entire planet is faced with a dire threat from some external force/entity?

Should we have nations bickering about who has the best god, who is the richest, who is the poorest, who is "right" or "chosen by god"?

The time will come when this happens. It's not if, it's when.
The sooner we can leave behind all the political bs and be one people on one planet, the better.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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It is very interesting and curious. They usually run in the same packs.

They prefer feelings over logic. They prefer centralized control over individual freedom. They do not appreciate neither our constitution nor bill of rights. They think nationalism and states rights are things of the past that have no meaning anymore. They think that by changing how a person thinks and feels, they can change humanity. They seem to believe in the never ending lies of our central government, mainstream academia and MSM. They always tend to place full responsibility on a person speaking words instead of the person hearing them. They rail against this reality and the simple rules of this existence.

There maybe different flavors of these people, but the underlying theme is always the same. I wish I understood it better. They seem to shy away from personal responsibility and accountability, always blaming others for their own feelings. They seem to hide from the truth, instead preferring comforting lies.

This goes far beyond politics and worldly events. It is the battle between tyranny versus freedom. It does't appear to be tied to intelligence or the ability to recite what others want to hear, but seems to be the difference in being confident in yourself compared to always seeking validation from others. It is almost like they have no internal self worth and are always trying to conform.

I would almost say it is a property of the soul and not upbringing.

This is one of the great questions of this existence.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: burntheships

Don't they care about their children's future? I rather die with dangerous freedom than be a peaceful slave as Benjamin Franklin once put it.


Yes, they do. They send them to exclusive private schools that no one else can afford. Usually for "security reasons".

As long as they keep everyone else in poverty, and then promise that the future can only get better, they are onto a winner. So offshoring, open borders, housing shortages, middle class neighborhoods being turned into buy-to-let HMO's for a transient population become all part of the plan.
Then there is a chance they'll get a cushy job with the EU or as a speaker on the international circuit.
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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: the owlbear

But when you centralize the possibility of authoritarianism is much more possible. That's why they call it Totalitarianism as in "Total Control". A world government system makes it much easier for that to happen. Your voices become much much smaller and the wealthy will most likely sit at the very top of that structure. Do you trust the wealthy elite enough to give them that much power to decide your fate and why should you trust them?



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:32 PM
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Why does the right keep making up weird unsubstantiated claims about what the left supposedly wants?

Life is full of mystery I guess.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1




The left used to believe in Nation States. However, they complete moved to the extreme far left into International Socialism territory which is allied with the Globalists.



Could you substantiate this with some facts? Please no farright BS blog.

eta....If the left is so socialist; why do so many of us own businesses and work so hard in the capitalistic system to provide for our families and buy stuff.


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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:03 PM
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Two hands are better than one.
Left or right.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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No matter the wing there exists a shadow below it at night the light of the moon reflects where during the day it shines down on it's prey.

Governments under the symbol of the bird have existed for a long time; a bird with one head turns left or right one eye on either side.

The dual headed one means shadow the reason for it being black at the top and also down under reports to the entire body...

The UN was the base for a new structure a world army/navy/air force or basically just the marines as all four combined the national guard included in that. Civilian guard is supposed to be the officer/court system. To settle all disputes public and private which is why there is money involved.

Crossing seas and lands is something many do not even want to do... such a shame in my opinion it is like eating the same meal day in and day out over and over. Might as well be a tree in such an instance instead of a biped no one needs to get on all fours and bray like and ass or stomp around like an elephant.

All societies are capitalist even in the animal phylum... the difference well those placed into power by the people; meaning all of those placed there can be corrupted by money, greed, and hate either real or fabricated for some end... meaning a goal.

Many try to keep goals quiet and yet the silly thing is demanding a populace to be transparent through law; without transparency itself. The excuse was terror, and well any ideology to such a hive as a government is considered subversive a voice counter to agendas.

Of course system after system such as human nature it is the same no matter the trope ideology hangs and kicks it's feet by... basic human need and desires are the same. Using that for and against each other no matter where that is; is like one city trying to incorporate another.

No we dont want major roads and through fares stacked on top of each other like you already have over there... and then some saying oh it isnt so bad. So the two wings come together to see how all of that flies and at what cost.

Like the transcontinental pipe line; benefiting Canada, the US, and Mexico while screwing over the natives that were here long before current government.

Looking at history reservations were chewed up over and over; pushing the peoples all in one place like a herd a corral one to slowly go round and round until all are absorbed into the so called invasive culture.

This takes place around the world; of course no real free movement everything becomes a prison, thought prisons, ideological prisons, to where the entire world holds itself hostage due to it's own stupidity.

Unbinding means seeing the propaganda no matter the source for exactly what it is... it is educational material for some road or purpose either given or chosen. Some of it used to be forced demanded controlled... and yet some of it still is even amongst those that could be called innocent.

Who wants to go through life running a three legged race? Dragging two others with you or they you? Teamwork for what end? That goal way over there; didnt really want too... of course not that is why you are tied too two others. If they do not want to either?

Then the entire two party blah is seen for what it is propping up an agenda using those either ignorant, knowing or unwilling.

Trying to maintain the status quotient of all three of those takes all those parties and ideologies.

Of course extremist and intolerance of totalitarian systems do not want all classes bearing equal rights and understandings and that is because of control.

The silly thing is most that are like that have little to no control if any over themself, one's own desires and grasping's... and why would they want too so closed minded to sit in one mental place and eat the same food over and over? However if that is what they like and want to do no one has any authority and shouldn't to say otherwise even those thinking they have it.

Of course governments have to be careful or else they become corrupted and not for the people at all... this is when the global force steps in... as said that should be the UN and governments fund it, the reason being is it is all too easy in one country buying another country and then propagandizing the populaces to fight with each other and see them as enemies.

It is pathetic and pathological to be doing such underhanded tactics in todays society... when the entire information age has been used to become a disinfo age to still people people separated and under control and dominion instead of growth and opportunity we know why such ideologies not forward thinking keep failing.

Some like to drag old nonsense from the past forward as an excuse; to keep a seed of hate buried deep into order to throw water on it to grow and fuel the next agenda that harms an entire populace or way of life. Truth and planning is inclusive those that do not use such are the ones trying to remain exclusive, to capitalize on their own appetites and greeds for the sake of all others.

I implore those that want to draw party lines to examine the above deeply... as the problem is many make snap and irrational decisions, based on those old past triggers those seeds planted for a future of harm instead of co-operation.

The earth is sustainable with or without us.

History has written branches of humanity out several times already... how many times does humanity have to be folded in over and over before we cease to trip each other up?

I can't say as it starts and ends with each individual. In honesty there is no whole; just a group of ideologies like a conglomerate that people cling too as if it were real.

The sun and earth are real enough... the life flowing all across its depths and surface are real enough. The excuses in how it flows is the fake the fabricated.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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With Karl Marx, the original vision for Socialism / Communism was a global scale "revolution".

Did well in Europe. They had a front here too in the late 19th Century.

But then in the US the labor union movements manifested, and the Party shifted to this model, which I think was more or less nationalistic. Socialism faded here for a while. Until FDR, perhaps. I think it sort of plateaued, more or less after he set up all that.

Note the Party didnt start off with it, like it didnt with union's. But that stuff was necessitated by all the robberbarron BS that was really peaking the last several decades of the 19th Century, the same years the DNC had emerged and so on. So by the end of the 19th Century they pretty much latched onto that stuff, while the RNC was pretty much already the overt choice of the robberbarrons.

Anyways, that the world government / worldwide socialist revolution sentiment would linger on that side isnt a surprise. That would be the obvious goto side when picking which one to minionize overtly. Of course at the Party / RObberbarron level, globalism / world government / etc is all the ideal, especially when their goal is to setup an international corporate de facto super-state.

It all came full circle with these multinational corporatism loving "progressives". Its so weird seeing them adore that one minute, and carry hammer & sickle flags the next. The bulk of them probably have no idea what they're really trying to get, but its all been made trendy I guess and it makes them feel oh so important. If they'd actually drop the Identity Politics they might have room in their brains to figure out what they should NOT want (communism / international corporatist de facto world government) / etc), learn how they're being hoodwinked like no society ever before them, and figure out some actual good bits and pieces from the human chronicle that might actually work moving forward.




posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: burntheships

Don't they care about their children's future? I rather die with dangerous freedom than be a peaceful slave as Benjamin Franklin once put it.


They might care about their children, but as with the Clinton's
they prepare them with Trusts, Foundations, and friends
in high places. Their children will never be poor.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
Why does the right keep making up weird unsubstantiated claims about what the left supposedly wants?

Life is full of mystery I guess.


All right. Tell us what you want, and why you always seem to vote for more and more centralization in order to achieve what you say you want?

The end result is ever more power consolidation in the hands of a few and the loss of freedom which all leads to globalization as we've been discussing.

For someone who says you don't want these things, the end results will lead there anyhow unless you explain what your game plan actually is.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I think they've morphed it into a social movement and are working to enact their revolution on social equity grounds now.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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the left represents the good brainwashed people of the nation who do not question what the media or education tells them to believe.

They are too afraid to be individuals and end up succumbing to whatever they think most people agree with.

A great example of this is when Bernie Sanders, in a span of about 2 days, went from, "I will absolutely never support HIllary Clinton" to, "We as a nation, have to give Hillary Clinton our full support."

It was the most inorganic flip of the masses I have ever seen in my life. Of course, most of the left didn't blink an eye.

The whole time i knew Bernie was going to be taken out, just like Ron Paul was years ago...




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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1
The left used to believe in Nation States. However, they complete moved to the extreme far left into International Socialism territory which is allied with the Globalists.

In a world government system much like the EU. There are unelected bureaucrats appointed by the Central Bankers who determine the laws, thus, override the duly elected government and people's voices within the nation-state.

They want lopsided treaties that override the will of the people and open borders which will eliminate the need for nation-state and make it easier to implement a World Government under the control of the elite bankers. I understand why the Bankers want a world government, so they can implement laws that will override all nation-state laws which will make it easier for control. They won't have to spend a lot of resources by co-opt one nation at a time and put their puppets in, which can be costly. They can just do it across the spectrum as soon as all the countries are merged together much like the EU.

I don't understand why the left wants this system. How would the leftist poor and middle class benefit from a system like this? Their voices will be completely eliminated.


First you need to realize that what you call the left is a very diverse and loose coalition of many different degrees and models of leftist thought that run the gambit from Authoritarian Central Economies without individual property rights to Democratic Socialistic versions of Capitalism. So your premise of "the Left" can't be taken seriously and more the "The Right" as an homogenized whole can be taken seriously (though a right tendency is of 'conformity' of thought and deed').

A 'One World Government' can be as easily attributed to The Right or the The Left depending on what's popular in your social circle.

Give me some examples (concrete and verifabile) from different Leftists and then we can have a discussion. Otherwise it is just a rant.







 
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