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What We Know, and Don’t Know, About the Firing of Andrew McCabe

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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

How do we know that? we got verification of that?




posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: howtonhawky

We dont know what the IG and AG know.

Hint: BOOM.


We know they fired a man 1 day before his retirement and likely deprived him of that pension

Fire him, fine, but they are vindictive, cruel and crude to deprive him of that.


We also know Sessions broke his recusal pledge


We also know Sessions did this just to placate Trump


Your just making stuff up.

Sessions followed the recommendation of the IG.

Just because you hate Trump doesnt mean you should lie.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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I feel Trump has already started regretting firing McCabe.

www.wsj.com...

Now What?

www.rawstory.com...



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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We keep hearing about these "notes" like they are supposed to contain some non biased accurate honest account of whatever alleged discussions he may or may not have had? Same thing for Comey. And these are the only notes and memos they never kept for anyone they ever met including Obama. What credence are we supposed to have with them?



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I feel Trump has already started regretting firing McCabe.

www.wsj.com...

Now What?

www.rawstory.com...


Trump didn't fire McCable. McCabe was internally fired over violations and possible breaking the law which was carried out by the AG.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I feel Trump has already started regretting firing McCabe.

www.wsj.com...

Now What?

www.rawstory.com...


Was McCabe fired for falsifying 302's?

What value do a liars notes have?



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: mkultra11
We keep hearing about these "notes" like they are supposed to contain some non biased accurate honest account of whatever alleged discussions he may or may not have had? Same thing for Comey. And these are the only notes and memos they never kept for anyone they ever met including Obama. What credence are we supposed to have with them?


When you are fired for lying on notes, your notes have no credibility



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: howtonhawky

We dont know what the IG and AG know.

Hint: BOOM.


We dont know anything as the IG report isnt FINISHED but you sure seem to think you know....



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.

edit on 17-3-2018 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.


I domt know the law in DC....but that itself is a crime in many states
ETA...its hilarious to suggest an agency who uses 302's would decide to record a meeting to protect themselves. Hypocritically ironic actually
edit on 3/17/2018 by bigfatfurrytexan because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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While there was an investigation on McCabe, and it showed, that the man needed to be fired, which is true, however, the question that will need to be answered: Was this political?

If the man did wrong, violating rules and policies and should be terminated that is fine. However with the President actively tweeting about it, by making comments, raises that very question. And ultimately the President should be called to answer those questions.

The Presidents words, weighs heavy, it can sway policy, and procedure. It can also affect trails, verdicts and sentencing. The best case example of this, all that has to be looked at would be the Bowe Bergdahl case. Here they found the man guilty of desertion, and they had a very solid punishment lined up. But due to the President tweeting it, it ruined that and the man got off with a far lighter sentence that he deserved.

So was the firing of McCabe political?



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: howtonhawky

he fired any one who suggests the Russians are a problem ( not our friend)


When did Nikki Haley get fired? Or Mattis, or Kelly or pretty much everyone else in the administration? Because everyone has said Russia is a bad actor. Including Trump. Whoever you get your information from lied to you.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.


I domt know the law in DC....but that itself is a crime in many states
ETA...its hilarious to suggest an agency who uses 302's would decide to record a meeting to protect themselves. Hypocritically ironic actually


What do you expect from them? They've been grasping as straws for so long they are willing to try anything to make sense of Trump winning.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.


I domt know the law in DC....but that itself is a crime in many states
ETA...its hilarious to suggest an agency who uses 302's would decide to record a meeting to protect themselves. Hypocritically ironic actually


What do you expect from them? They've been grasping as straws for so long they are willing to try anything to make sense of Trump winning.


My favorite thing so far has been this story today that "McCabe has memos about Trump" as if his own unsupported assertions are somehow more valid if they're typed up in an official memo. The media are such suckers. Without corroboration it doesn't matter if it's on paper or your own verbal testimony, it's still just your story.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 06:05 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.


I domt know the law in DC....but that itself is a crime in many states
ETA...its hilarious to suggest an agency who uses 302's would decide to record a meeting to protect themselves. Hypocritically ironic actually


What do you expect from them? They've been grasping as straws for so long they are willing to try anything to make sense of Trump winning.


My favorite thing so far has been this story today that "McCabe has memos about Trump" as if his own unsupported assertions are somehow more valid if they're typed up in an official memo. The media are such suckers. Without corroboration it doesn't matter if it's on paper or your own verbal testimony, it's still just your story.


In here they try to imply McCabe has video or audio or his conversations with Trump. This from an organization that uses 302's as Gospel.....priceless.
edit on 17-3-2018 by pavil because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




What value do a liars notes have?


Not much unless they are backed up by audio and or video. LE is sneeky that way to protect themselves form blowback which seems to be the case in this instance. Technology has changed everything.


I domt know the law in DC....but that itself is a crime in many states
ETA...its hilarious to suggest an agency who uses 302's would decide to record a meeting to protect themselves. Hypocritically ironic actually


What do you expect from them? They've been grasping as straws for so long they are willing to try anything to make sense of Trump winning.


My favorite thing so far has been this story today that "McCabe has memos about Trump" as if his own unsupported assertions are somehow more valid if they're typed up in an official memo. The media are such suckers. Without corroboration it doesn't matter if it's on paper or your own verbal testimony, it's still just your story.


In here they try to imply McCabe has video or audio or his conversations with Trump. This from an organization that uses 302's as Gospel.....priceless.


No matter what he has, Trump didn't fire him. Sessions had perfectly legitimate justification to fire him. Your boss's boss hating you doesn't mean you get to keep your job if you do something against company policy. What is even the point here? But, but... Trump hated him! He shouldn't be able to be fired for any reason then? The #ing ridiculous corners these people's "logic" leads them into.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: howtonhawky

We dont know what the IG and AG know.

Hint: BOOM.


We know they fired a man 1 day before his retirement and likely deprived him of that pension

Fire him, fine, but they are vindictive, cruel and crude to deprive him of that.


We also know Sessions broke his recusal pledge


We also know Sessions did this just to placate Trump


Your just making stuff up.

Sessions followed the recommendation of the IG.

Just because you hate Trump doesnt mean you should lie.


Lie about what?

The IG didn’t, as far as I know, recommend firing the guy 1 day before retirement.

Also, MAYBE the IG did what it suppose to do, Sessions in firing McCabe broke his recusal pledge, THAT’S A FACT

Unlike Trump I DON’T LIE to make a point

And unlike his followers, I don’t believe or pedal lies or follow a psychopath, sociopath, liar and one who cheats on his wife

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posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 07:11 PM
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Sesions did not do Trumps bidding. Sessions followed the counsel of his advisors and internal investigators, as per his statement.

Firing him 1 day or 200 days before his retirement....same/same. You are using what seems to be a cruel act as an appeal to emotion.

You cannot bolster your credibility by denigrating others. Thats what Trump does...and you are saying you are better than him.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Willtell

Sesions did not do Trumps bidding. Sessions followed the counsel of his advisors and internal investigators, as per his statement.

Firing him 1 day or 200 days before his retirement....same/same. You are using what seems to be a cruel act as an appeal to emotion.

You cannot bolster your credibility by denigrating others. Thats what Trump does...and you are saying you are better than him.


You are really talking out of your hat.

Firing somebody a day before they officially retire is blatant Trump appeasing.

We know Trump remarked on Twitter his displeasure he was retiring with a full pension.

Has been browbeating Sessions for months and threatening to fire him.

Sessions didn’t have to fire him 1 day before his retirement. He could have simply waited. NEVER do cases like this go so fast.



posted on Mar, 17 2018 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

There could be many reasons beyond trump appeasement

That is what you call talking out ones hat.




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