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Nerve Agent May Not Have Been Manufactured In Russia.

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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: spy66

I know. It is ridiculous that you're making all these claims without knowing anything about laboratory protocol.




posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: spy66

Although not the episode I've seen before it looks like the BBC are airing a program about Porton Down next week. Note his PPE in the picture.

www.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: spy66


Now look here old chap/chapess, if this is all getting too much for you just go outside for a moment and take a few gulps of fresh air and chill a bit.

Now calm down and listen. Full Haz Mat suits not worn in these labs - that is what the hoods are for.

There is no earthly reason why this poor long dead chap might lie about any of this, is there?



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: spy66

Jesses Christ........



I think you mean Jesus Christ and i don't think he needs a hazmat suit!!



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: spy66


Now look here old chap/chapess, if this is all getting too much for you just go outside for a moment and take a few gulps of fresh air and chill a bit.

Now calm down and listen. Full Haz Mat suits not worn in these labs - that is what the hoods are for.

There is no earthly reason why this poor long dead chap might lie about any of this, is there?




For some reason i have the impression that non of you have a job.....is that right. Non of you have ever heard about HMS.

Do any of you know how strickt it is to work With stuff like this? Have any of you ever heard of HMS Barriers at all?

Dont come and tell me that even People at the UK Chemical factory are allowed to work on Deadly Chemical With just one barrier of protection to a Deadly nerve agent. You got to be a damn fool if you think that.......

There are strict prosedures for working With Deadly Chemicals. And if you have to break a HMS barrier you have to compensate With some kind of alternative protection procedure that will protect you if something goes wrong. You would probably have to fill out a SJA sheet before you can work on the nerve agent. I also presume that any system that would be exposed to the Deadly nerve agent would be pressure tested, before the nerve agent was allowed to enter the system. A pressure test is conducted to verify that the container is safe for use.

People who know about H2S knows all about this...... And H2S is not even up there With nerve agents like VX,VM and Novichoks. But H2S is very Deadly People who work on oil riggs knows that.

You People are telling me you have no knowledge at all about this at all.

THat is probably also the reason why you cant tell facts from fiction when you read a article either.





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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
They should have died in their car where the investigation state that they were exposed to this nerve agent through the cars ventilation system.


The highest concentration of the nerve agent has been on the door of Skripal's house.


The former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter are believed to have been poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent at their home, police said. Detectives identified the highest concentration of the novichok nerve agent on the front door of their address in Christie Miller Road, in Salisbury. .......

The Metropolitan Police said traces of the nerve agent have been found at some of the other scenes detectives have been working at over the past few weeks, but at lower concentrations.

Detectives will now focus their inquiries in and around the address, and specialist teams will step back from some of the other areas investigated over the past few weeks.


The Independent Newspaper Link



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: spy66
They should have died in their car where the investigation state that they were exposed to this nerve agent through the cars ventilation system.


The highest concentration of the nerve agent has been on the door of Skripal's house.


The former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter are believed to have been poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent at their home, police said. Detectives identified the highest concentration of the novichok nerve agent on the front door of their address in Christie Miller Road, in Salisbury. .......

The Metropolitan Police said traces of the nerve agent have been found at some of the other scenes detectives have been working at over the past few weeks, but at lower concentrations.

Detectives will now focus their inquiries in and around the address, and specialist teams will step back from some of the other areas investigated over the past few weeks.


The Independent Newspaper Link



That is New information to me. Thanks......

But it is still odd that the car was in question sinse it had a high consentration of the nerve agent as well.

This even makes me more unsure that the nerve agent actually was Novichoks. Because this means that the victems were exposed to the substanse over a very long timeline.

But thanks for the information... it is New information for me.....



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: spy66
They should have died in their car where the investigation state that they were exposed to this nerve agent through the cars ventilation system.


The highest concentration of the nerve agent has been on the door of Skripal's house.


The former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter are believed to have been poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent at their home, police said. Detectives identified the highest concentration of the novichok nerve agent on the front door of their address in Christie Miller Road, in Salisbury. .......

The Metropolitan Police said traces of the nerve agent have been found at some of the other scenes detectives have been working at over the past few weeks, but at lower concentrations.

Detectives will now focus their inquiries in and around the address, and specialist teams will step back from some of the other areas investigated over the past few weeks.


The Independent Newspaper Link



That is New information to me. Thanks......

But it is still odd that the car was in question sinse it had a high consentration of the nerve agent as well.

This even makes me more unsure that the nerve agent actually was Novichoks. Because this means that the victems were exposed to the substanse over a very long timeline.

But thanks for the information... it is New information for me.....



No problem. It depends on many factors. It would appear likely that the nerve agent was smeared on the door handle of the house. Was it degraded by the time the Skripals left the house? Perhaps Mr Skripal was wearing dress gloves when he locked the door? Perhaps he removed those gloves in the car and handed them to his daughter to place in the glove box therefore both having direct hand contamination with this already degraded nerve agent?

Perhaps he wore driving gloves and the cross contamination to his daughter was when they held hands or linked arms while walking to the pub/restaurant?



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 11:57 PM
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originally posted by: Indrasweb
a reply to: Spacespider
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There seems to be a trend to get the BS out there as hard and fast and loud as possible and then later, make amendments and retractions quietly and/or under a mountain of other BS.
...

That seems to happen a lot in this field as well:

ANNOUNCEMENTS OF “MISSING LINKS”

Fact: The media often widely broadcasts the announcement that a new “missing link” has been discovered. For example, in 2009 a fossil dubbed Ida was unveiled with what one journal called “rock-star hype.”43 Publicity included this headline in The Guardian newspaper of the United Kingdom (UK): “Fossil Ida: Extraordinary Find Is ‘Missing Link’ in Human Evolution.”44 However, just days later, the UK science journal New Scientist said: “Ida is not a ‘missing link’ in human evolution.”45

Question: Why is each unveiling of a new “missing link” given wide media attention, whereas the removal of that fossil from the “family tree” is hardly mentioned?

Answer: Regarding those who make these discoveries, Robin Derricourt, quoted earlier, says: “The leader of a research team may need to over-emphasize the uniqueness and drama of a ‘discovery’ in order to attract research funding from outside the conventional academic sources, and they will certainly be encouraged in this by the print and electronic media, looking for a dramatic story.”46

43. New Scientist, “A Fine Fossil​—But a Missing Link She’s Not,” by Chris Bead, May 30, 2009, p. 18.

44. The Guardian, London, “Fossil Ida: Extraordinary Find Is ‘Missing Link’ in Human Evolution,” by James Randerson, May 19, 2009, (http://​www.guardian.co.uk/​science/​2009/may/​19/​ida-fossil-missing-link), accessed 8/25/2009.

45. New Scientist, May 30, 2009, pp. 18-19.

46. Critique of Anthropology, Volume 29(2), p. 202.

Source besides the ones already listed above: Has All Life Descended From a Common Ancestor?



posted on Mar, 29 2018 @ 03:57 AM
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originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: tommyjo

originally posted by: spy66
They should have died in their car where the investigation state that they were exposed to this nerve agent through the cars ventilation system.


The highest concentration of the nerve agent has been on the door of Skripal's house.


The former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter are believed to have been poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent at their home, police said. Detectives identified the highest concentration of the novichok nerve agent on the front door of their address in Christie Miller Road, in Salisbury. .......

The Metropolitan Police said traces of the nerve agent have been found at some of the other scenes detectives have been working at over the past few weeks, but at lower concentrations.

Detectives will now focus their inquiries in and around the address, and specialist teams will step back from some of the other areas investigated over the past few weeks.


The Independent Newspaper Link



That is New information to me. Thanks......

But it is still odd that the car was in question sinse it had a high consentration of the nerve agent as well.

This even makes me more unsure that the nerve agent actually was Novichoks. Because this means that the victems were exposed to the substanse over a very long timeline.

But thanks for the information... it is New information for me.....



No problem. It depends on many factors. It would appear likely that the nerve agent was smeared on the door handle of the house. Was it degraded by the time the Skripals left the house? Perhaps Mr Skripal was wearing dress gloves when he locked the door? Perhaps he removed those gloves in the car and handed them to his daughter to place in the glove box therefore both having direct hand contamination with this already degraded nerve agent?

Perhaps he wore driving gloves and the cross contamination to his daughter was when they held hands or linked arms while walking to the pub/restaurant?


Well one thing is for sure. The one's who smeared the nerve agent would be dressed up With protection gear. And would be easy to spot. If not they would probably be dead by now.



posted on Mar, 29 2018 @ 04:19 AM
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Not necessarily. The fact that they are referring to it being "smeared" suggests that it was not in a form likely to have become airborne.

Would you mind explaining how the dead Russian scientist might possibly have any motive for lying about what happened to him?



posted on Mar, 29 2018 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Flanker86


Russia does not have chemical weapons, because they are not useful in any battlefield.

I'll be sure to let all the soldiers on the receiving end of chlorine gas/mustard gas/Agent Orange/etc attacks know that they didn't actually die.


There is only "one" use for chemical weapons, and that is to "cover" your behind when you run. To slow down an advancing army, etc.

Which is why, Russia made certain Syria got rid of their chemical weapons at the beginning of the war ... and is also why "the rebels" or responsible for all current use of chemical weapons.

Skripal and his daughter got exposed at their "homes" and then made it out to the park, sat on a bench ... just like two dolls, put up for display.

The use here, is the exact same use as in Syria ... it's meant for "public" display. It's not meant as a weapon, in the sense as a weapon ... but meant to dissarray the public, and gain publicity. As such a weapon, it's meant "against" Russia ... which should be pretty evident, even to retards.



posted on Mar, 29 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: spy66


Well one thing is for sure. The one's who smeared the nerve agent would be dressed up With protection gear. And would be easy to spot. If not they would probably be dead by now.


Consider that the nerve agent was spread on the door handle during the hours of darkness. Under the cover of darkness someone could have spread a powder or gel wearing a respirator and gloves and the chances of being seen would have been minimal. Also consider that whoever planned the attack did an in-depth surveillance of the area checking for home CCTV covering the area.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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Ridiculous, as I suspected all along

Moronic politicians like May are clueless, and have entirely destroyed any credibility their liberal ideology had left.

Time for a real change. Blaming Russia for, well, everything has become the new "PC"

Time to tread on "PC Culture" yet again by ignoring the invented Russia hate.

It is clear to me Russia is the victim in this instance, and the UK apparently the aggressor. Severe sanctions should follow, including prohibiting UK forces from re-arming their Trident missiles at our ports. Possibly even a ban on any UK government officials entering our borders.

They've interfered in our elections (via Chris Steele) and our geo-political relationships one too many times.
Dump the UK

Furthermore, their illegitimate and incompetent government must immediately recognize the popular will and sovereignty of their Citizen's Brexit mandate.
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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 12:39 PM
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Makes no sense though. This screams of Islamic terrorism or false flag.

Simply put, an assassination with a chemical/radioactive agent requires precision placement and timing to ensure the right target is affected. Otherwise, they risk unwanted collateral damage and most importantly they risk not affecting their target's death. Unless I'm missing something logically here, this makes very little actual sense.

So either Russia is very incompetent and chose an easily identifiable agent with a scary sounding Russian name, or someone is pinning it on them (either via false flag or Islamic terror)

Additionally, the speed at which the liberals started foaming at the mouth is indicative of Parkland and other probable false-flag events.
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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: tommyjo

Makes no sense though. This screams of Islamic terrorism or false flag.

Simply put, an assassination with a chemical/radioactive agent requires precision placement and timing to ensure the right target is affected. Otherwise, they risk unwanted collateral damage and most importantly they risk not affecting their target's death. Unless I'm missing something logically here, this makes very little actual sense.

So either Russia is very incompetent and chose an easily identifiable agent with a scary sounding Russian name, or someone is pinning it on them (either via false flag or Islamic terror)

Additionally, the speed at which the liberals started foaming at the mouth is indicative of Parkland and other probable false-flag events.


No it doesn't. Remember they have history of this with Litvenenko and were sloppy with that too. The trail of Polonium was all over the place including the hotels where the two suspects stayed and also the flights they took back to Moscow. They don't care that the substances they use will be identified as they just go into the standard denial mode. It sends a message to those that betrayed that they will suffer. The question is it Russian state sponsored or simply rogue elements within the Russian security agencies.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: tommyjo

Additionally, the speed at which the liberals started foaming at the mouth is indicative of Parkland and other probable false-flag events.


You can't seem to grasp the idea and history of politics outside of American here, your constant blame of liberals and the such are nothing to do with this poisoning by Russian agents, you see liberal conspiracies everywhere, that's unhealthy!!

Again, the British government at the moment is conservative, C O N S E R V A T I V E. I spelled it for you, now try looking it up!



Furthermore, their illegitimate and incompetent government must immediately recognize the popular will and sovereignty of their Citizen's Brexit mandate.


You seem to have absolutely no idea about British politics, the Brexit vote was leave, we are, we have 1 year left, again try looking it up before you post something else that makes you look even more stupid.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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Proper spelling does not automatically lead to truthful and accurate statements.

The British case has not been proved in any way, shape or form. This is most likely another effort to demonize Russia.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 01:23 AM
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Surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet or it may have it's own thread that I can't find. If so, please give me a link.

The Russian spy's daughter doctor has said she is "improving rapidly". She is now conscious, eating, drinking and talking...
Source

That's some miracle right!


Especially when Mrs May said last week "their condition is unlikely to change in the near future, and they may never recover fully." More evidence that she can't be trusted, even if she was sincere or not.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:31 AM
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This News came out in moste medias 30 hours ago.

- The News on this will die soon because Our political mission is completed. This made it possible for us to expell over a 100 russian dimplomats in many different countries. And create a even darker pupblic image of Russia.


I Wonder what Our governments will do Next......... Our governments have given themselves the right to retaliate against that Russia expelled over a 100 of Our deplomats. This story is already changing into a New issue........




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