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I think this is a slippery slope issue.
originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha
a reply to: TheRedneck
I just hope when the Cal-Exit thing happens it won't result in a civil war to spank them back into place. Just let them secede and get that wall up.
The realist in me says nothing will change (for the better) in my lifetime.
This is just more political posturing and the wheels keep on spinning.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: TheRedneck
Seems to me the United States of America could be renamed the fractured states of America.
Why and how is there such division among citizens..... It's truly mind boggling.
originally posted by: sdcigarpig
It is the opening of a door for federal overreach. Right now it is cause they want to get states to comply with the federal laws, as determined by one group. But make no mistake, once that door is opened up, it is all over, the legal precedent would be set and ultimately will end up with the federal over reach.
originally posted by: Thirty6BelowZero
originally posted by: strongfp
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha
This has much in common with the years before the War of Northern Aggression.
What war was that?
Never heard of it.
Yes you have. Yankees were the aggressors so most people knowledgeable about the Civil War will call it the War of Northern Aggression.
Congressman Todd Rokita introduced the SLAP Act (H.R. 4526, the Stopping Lawless Actions of Politicians) to hold lawless state and local politicians accountable with criminal penalties for working to obstruct federal immigration enforcement efforts
And a law like this would open up a door that no one would want. And there is an old saying: Never hand a person a loaded weapon unless one knows where it is going to point it at.
Actual text of HR4526 per House.gov official website
“Whoever, being a State or local official having custody of an individual, knowingly ignores a request from the Federal Government for the custody of that individual, if the requesting authority has designated that individual as a violator of the immigration laws, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both”.
But beyond that would that include anyone in the USA, would there be exceptions to that rule? I ask cause there are some cases of members in federal office, who are just as guilty for that as those in the State of California.
And what do you propose to be done when it expands to other states, or areas that are not sanctuary states, but say are doing something that the current administration is in favor of?
If the people who are responsible are put in jail, such as the Mayors, and city councils, the Governor, LT governor, the Legislature, who then is left to run the state? It would require some form of government to come in and run until a new government could be elected.
Or worse, what if the local law enforcement and the population refuses to let the federal officials do such? That could get ugly real quick.
So when the southern states all signed the declaration of war and secession and then attacked fort sumpter it was the north who were the aggressors?
Sounds like more power to the feds less power to the states.