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originally posted by: truthnlies
its because in our sad society the condemned have more rights than those they killed or their loved ones. take the SOB's outside and tie em to a pole and pull the trigger. problem solved guaranteed dead and a whole lot cheaper.
originally posted by: rickymouse
Just stick them in a room with a Good TV show and slowly put in nitrogen and they will fall asleep and die. Start with nitrous oxide so they can laugh themselves to sleep. Sounds way to cheap I suppose, nobody will make any money off that.
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: silo13
a reply to: [post=23230133]FredT[/pos
Oh please. Get over it already.
Firing squad or rope and be done with it.
The U.S. penile system suffers from a guilty conscience. It makes them feel better if they kill respectfully.
originally posted by: penroc3
getting stuck over and over and over is a nightmare, even more so when nerves are hit. IJ/EJ's are awful even if ultrasound is used.
originally posted by: FredT
In an interesting move the state of Oklahoma, citing a problem with obtaining medications necessary to perform lethal injections, is going to use nitrogen to perform its executions.
Nitrogen is not toxic per say but if used in increasing percentages it would be lethal causing hypoxia. Sea Level oxygen percentage is 21%. If you introduce a greater concentration of nitrogen the body will be starved of oxygen and succumb to hypoxia. Given the difficulties they hav ebeen having this may be a better way than lethal injection.
1) What is all this nonsense about not being able to obtain vascular access on the condemned? I can get an IV into a dehydrated chubby infant which is a high degree of difficulty. Why are these guys so hard? They need better people. Or better yet, lidocaine the shin and drill an interosseous cathether. Done and done
2) This focus on this cocktail of drugs. The problem is the drug being used are no longer commonplace. Once they fall off of the emergency resuscitation algorithms they are difficult to obtain. Simply shoot that person up with enough medical grade morphine or fentanyl and they will stop breathing. Done and done. Its foolproof, painless, and cheap. Better yet, if you cannot get the IV, the drugs can be administered via enema.
I'm really perplexed as to why any of this is an issue. Nitrogen seems needlessly complicated
originally posted by: doobydoll
I can't believe I'm reading a 'how-to' on killing people. Some of you are medically trained too.
I know the ones condemned to die have done bad things in their lives, but all you folks coming up with new ideas to efficiently kill them makes you just as bad as them. I'm horrified that medically trained people with their valuable and wonderful skills are discussing ideas of killing other people. It's psychopathic. Here's me thinking you're supposed to help save lives, not end them.
Execution is pre-meditated murder. How can planning with intent to end the life of another person be a crime when perpetrated by a member of the public, but not a crime when perpetrated by government?
I know what the condemned have done are very bad things but killing them for it doesn't undo their crimes, it just makes the state a murderer too.
originally posted by: Blueracer
a reply to: MteWamp
If I remember correctly, nitrogen is an inert gas that displaces oxygen.