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It's Over - U.S. House Russia Probe Investigation Ends: No Evidence of Russian Collusion

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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

you know what the big difference between obama/clinton and the trump campaign is?? obama/clinton was working in the gov't not trying to win an election to get in. and we know that in it's "official capacity" our gov't can do some things that to us seems quite shady but may in fact be addressing issues of national security. we also know that congressmen and women can have big mouths sometimes and say things that shouldn't be said on the open airwaves. matter of fact, we've had intelligence agents have their covers blown because of their big mouths.
we also know, or at least many of us do, that many of the so called "crimes" committed by hillary are just a bunch of made up stories with very little factual basis, like uranium one. it was done in her official capacity as the secretary of state though, and she was not the only one who signed off on that sale, matter of fact, I don't think she did sign off on it, one of her underlings did.
trump and gang had no official capacity, they were running for office. and if they any role whatsoever in the hacking of the dnc emails, or the distribution of them, THEY BROKE THE LAW!!!

oh, I know, you are gonna come back with an alternate set of facts showing that it was obama/hillary/ the liberals, whoever who were the evil doers here... which you find just as believable as I do mine set of facts..
that's why the mueller team needs to be allowed to press on, to learn which set is fact and not fiction. both sides trusted him when he began this investigation, they all had high opinions of him.. we need to be able to trust someone and we sure the heck can keep going with two competing strands of facts tearing each other down like this. it would end in disaster for sure.




posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: dawnstar

you know what the big difference between obama/clinton and the trump campaign is?? obama/clinton was working in the gov't not trying to win an election to get in.


Both seeked op-research from Russia during an election, so I fail to see the difference.



oh, I know, you are gonna come back with an alternate set of facts showing that it was obama/hillary/ the liberals, whoever who were the evil doers here...


No I'm not going to come with alternative facts or say anything against liberals (specifically).

People operate under the assumption if someone says something about one side they're for the other.

I'm for neither, I think they're both the problem. They get away with it because their base will defend them no matter what.

And everyone says the other side is always worse.

They both are shady and bend or break the rules.
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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:51 AM
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Democrats have accused Republicans on the committee of shirking the investigation in order to protect Trump and his associates, some of whom have pleaded guilty to charges including lying to investigators and conspiring against the United States.


And yet Never Trump have pinned all their delusions on that republican named Mueller.

I wish it was over.

But this is going to be like the 2000 election.

We ain't going to ever hear the end of it.

Never Trump will never admit they lost, even after all their colluding with foreigners,the media,LEO, and electioneering.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 09:09 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

when sarah palin was chosen to be vp candidate, a group of dems traveled to alaska to learn a little bit about her.. I know because my boss was one of the ones that went. I think that it's a usual occurence for the parties to do some research on their opponents. and it's been no secret that trump has had alot of income coming in from russians.. his own son has stated as much. so ya, that research would involved investigating those business deals that brought that money to him. so the parties, first the republicans and then the dems, hired an american company to do that research, who then hired a british man who was more qualified to handle some of that research. all of this would have been quite normal and acceptable except the british guy ran into some information that alarmed him about trump and went to the fbi about it.

and while I agree that both parties are shady as all heck, I have a problem when one group of shady people start wheeling and dealing with the shady people of another country for help to actually win the election and make big bucks afterwards for their business. For all we know kushner used that security clearance to get all kinds of information and he's been selling it off to the highest bidder in exchange for low interest loans for his business...
there is no way for us to know, but dang, we all should want to know if he's exchanged the location of all our nukes to russia, saudi arabia, or any other country, shouldn't we??



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: burntheships


So question, are you guys more concerned with finding the truth, or confirming what you think you already know? The republicans in the house are obfuscating the facts of this investigation. The don't want the truth, they want this entire episode to just go away, which is sad. What happened to being American first, and R or D after? Does that not matter? Is this a race thing? Are you so concerned with America becoming less white that you'd go against or own morals and values to support THIS guy? Seriously?

You guys are going to be on the wrong side of history on this one and at some point, some of you at least, will have to answer for your apathy and disdain for decency.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

Hilarious. A committee run by conservatives found nothing against a sitting Republican President. Shocking I tell you! And about as trust worthy as if it were a committee run by liberals and the sitting President was a Democrat under the same circumstances.

I'll wait for the actual investigation. You know, the one that has chosen to do a full investigation? I'll go with whatever that results in, or doesn't result in.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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No one on earth was surprised at this outcome. Everyone knew there was ZERO collusion......with the Trump campaign that is
. Some people still crying. Let it go!
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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: burntheships

Yeah. There is sides.

Even Fox News is saying the minority (dems) will get a copy Tuesday.

So much for a non-partisan committee.


This is a ridiculous complaint, one needs to understand
the process. How could there be a final report if the
investigation has not officially ended?

Is 24 hours too long to create a final report?



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Bicent
Just to stir the pot, let’s get hypothetical, if I was was Russia and I wanted to support trump would I use the nra to give donations to trump? YEP. now is that collusion?

I am pretty sure the Russians funneled money thru the nra to trump... that is what has the democrats going ape...


This claim is unsubstantiated, there is no proof at all
that Russia directly donated to the NRA to support Trump.

What's next, Russia colluding with McDonalds?



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Collusion is not illegal.

So what is Mueller spending millions investigating? Legal acts? Should that not falp under some department instead?

If Mueller is investigating...what is the crime hes investigating?

I find it curious that all the recent anonymous "leaks" and speculation articles are focusing on possible Obstruction charges. Really, this is a tacit admission that no underlying crime has been discovered.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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Witnesses not questioned, witnesses who refused to testify and walked away without a challenge, and witnesses not called.



Once again, witnesses blocked by Schiff and the Dems.




One party seeking to find anything wrong, while the other party seeks to protect a president, and neither were going to get very far with all of the political fighting and dividing along political lines.



One party sought to protect a candidate that had ran
an illegal operation inside of the State Department,
and colluded to let her off at the risk of national security.

One side broke dozens of laws and usurped the offices
of The FBI and the DOJ due to rank partisanship


.

This is going to go badly in the future, make no mistakes or thinking that it will be different, it won't. Door is open and the pendulum is moving.



Yes, it is already going badly. Look at all of the firings
and resignations in the DOJ and FBI!

Dozens....



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

It never ceases to amaze me.

Its about 3 scandals past a little boy crying wolf at this point. My default at this point is to believe nothing his political rivals say anymore.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: burntheships
Sure. That’s what the House says and what the GOP is insisting on but ACTIONS are what matter here. Trump is shopping for an impeachment attorney. If he was innocent, he wouldn’t be doing that. Politicians are really good at talking BS and it’s a bipartisan issue but until Mueller says so, it doesn’t matter what anyone says.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Right, and it wouldn't be near as bad if the bunch of them
hadn't been found pre election conspiring to set a trap
for him if he won, and were not talking small time.

FISA abuse is a seriously dangerous assault upon
the very fabric of the constitution, and the justice
system.

They were not content even with that, they
were literally willing to throw it all away with
their desperate attempts at a coup.

I am not sure who pulled the first thread
of their undoing, but whomever it is,
Nunes or Rogers....they are a hero.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: Tompdx3
a reply to: burntheships


it was only the republicans saying it was over, not the dems. You need to change your title to reflect the

truth! Besides, Trump probably told them to say that anyway.


Er, no. There is only one House Intelligence Committee. Just because Adam Schiff and his democrat friends on the committee don't agree doesn't change the majority ruling of the Committee. Schiff can cry all he likes but the investigation will close down with no findings of collusion. Schiff can even release his own views if he likes, but it will not be the views of the committee. Besides anything unofficial that he releases will be the usual speculation and cries to continue on and on without any evidence.

If he has any actual evidence it's NOW time to produce it. Put up or shut up, Schiff

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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: projectvxn

It's not crap. But denial is a popular destination. Take a picture of the pyramids while you're in Egypt.


I would say it's you in denial, silly.
The committee just came to a conclusion and it's not the one you wanted, so you're reading into interviews and what has not been said in order to try and keep it alive.

Sorry, for the House Intel Committee at least, it's over. No collusion.

It's the appetiser for the lovely meal Trump supporters are going to enjoy at anti-trumpers expense.

We move on and look forward to the next courses - the Senate Committee and the Mueller investigation.


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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: projectvxn

It's not crap. But denial is a popular destination. Take a picture of the pyramids while you're in Egypt.


I would say it's you in denial, silly.
The committee just came to a conclusion and it's not the one you wanted, so you're reading into interviews and what has not been said in order to try and keep it alive.

Sorry, for the House Intel Committee at least, it's over. No collusion.
We move on to the Senate Committee and the Mueller investigation.



And now you and folks like you have all the 'ammo' you need to decry any other investigations contrary determination.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: projectvxn

It's not crap. But denial is a popular destination. Take a picture of the pyramids while you're in Egypt.


I would say it's you in denial, silly.
The committee just came to a conclusion and it's not the one you wanted, so you're reading into interviews and what has not been said in order to try and keep it alive.

Sorry, for the House Intel Committee at least, it's over. No collusion.
We move on to the Senate Committee and the Mueller investigation.



And now you and folks like you have all the 'ammo' you need to decry any other investigations contrary determination.


Well some will I am sure. That's what happens when partisan politics runs riot and you end up with 3 major investigations running at the same time.

But for me, I've been fairly certain of the outcome for some time of this Committee and the Senate's and the SC. No collusion is going to be found.

Trump's only danger is that Mueller goes after him for some dodgy business dealings in his past - THAT is a real possibility and I am just as sure Trump would be guilty at some point of such dealings.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: kurthall


Muller is trained to get to the bottom of things....these people are not.


I am not sure what he is trained at,


Mueller is a Viet Nam Army Ranger Vet who received the Bronze Star with "V" for Valor, Purple Heart, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals with Combat "V", Combat Action Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal with three service stars, Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, and Parachutist Badge among other awards.

He then went on to destroy criminal organizations like the NY Gambino Mob and personally put John Gotti in prison, also successfully Prosecuted Panamanian Dictator Manuel Noriega and became the second longest serving FBI Director in history with a unanimous senate confirmation vote of 98-0.

Let me know if you have other questions about Robert Mueller.

His list of accomplishments is too long to list here and none of them include cheating on his wife with Porn Stars or dodging the draft or a fake university stealing millions etc. etc.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
No congressional committee investigation has ever been handled as badly as this one.


Get real indeed.

A look back at The Clinton email investigation,
the entire thing was rigged from start to finish.

What about ism....while we are at it.

New Texts Reveal FBI Strzok Knew Odds Were Zero Mueller Would Find Wrongdoing



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