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What do you considered right and left leanings?

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posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, there is third option.

Myself.

I trust myself.

Abdicating my trust in myself to place that faith in some other human entity is what you all are going on and on about.

Even on issues where I admit I don't know (health care), I still trust myself to decide which doctors and further providers (insurance) are better for me in my current situation.




posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

False-False Dichotomy!

We're all babies whom require corporations and parties and government agencies to mold our minds, take care of us, tell us how to dress, and what to eat, and what to buy, and who to hate, and who to blow up.




posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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The whole thing is a ruse...

All sides are controlled and the only war is the people against the 1%.

I reject all choices that were created only to pit each of us against each other.

By attacking each other and buying into this false paradigm we are only serving TPTB's divide and rule agenda.

The end result is we are all distracted from the real forces that are tearing society apart.


You're all arguing over nothing! The concept of Left or Right comes from the French revolution, and has to do with where the parties sat in Parliament. The idea stuck with the architects of the American revolution, who borrowed heavily from the Enlightenment principles of government that fueled the French revolution. . The left represents motion forward (i.e. Progressive) and the right represents static motion (i.e. Conservative). That's all. In this country, conservatism means small govn't... YT Comment

Would-be global rulers cannot physically control six and a half billion humans. Therefore, they must use secrecy and deceit. Keep the human herd ignorant and fighting with each other. Divide and conquer – it’s the oldest tactic in the book. And it’s relatively easy if you control the major academic institutions, the political parties and the major mass media (a mere five multinational corporations with interlocking directorships today control everything we see and hear. ~ Jim Marrs

For far too long, Americans have been told they exist only as members of warring camps—as Republican or Democrat, red state or blue, conservative or liberal, right or left, religious or secular, urban or rural, majority, minority and even minority/majority. It’s no coincidence that we are described by these labels—as if these labels defined us—by elites who alone stand to benefit from the very divisions they promote.

If they can convince the rest of us that we are at each other’s throats, on the verge of civil strife, these elites can make us believe our own neighbors are our enemies and that we have nothing in common but our hatred of each other.

By herding us into these warring camps, by pitting us against one another, these elites can also distract us from the real forces tearing this society apart—the unaccountable, irresponsible political establishment that now presumes to govern in our name, with no concern for anything but its own interests. By sowing these seeds of distrust, they divide and conquer, and for too long, they have succeeded.

Break the Left vs. Right Paradigm

Dr. Sutton believes the "left" versus "right" split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the "The Nation" and "The New Republic" and right-wing magazines like "The National Review were "artificially set up." The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are "The Order."

Dr. Sutton states: "Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left. This is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them." Similarly, in the international field left and right political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for one-world synthesis, i.e. authoritarian socialism controlled by monopoly capital. College textbooks present war and revolution as accidental results of conflicting forces. This is nonsense, says Dr. Sutton. They are created and financed by Wall Street to create a new world order. But you won't read this in history books.

THE BATTLE IS NOT BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT

...the "left" versus "right" split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the "The Nation" and "The New Republic" and right-wing magazines like "The National Review were "artificially set up." The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are "The Order." Dr. Sutton states: "Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left. This is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them."

Similarly, in the international field left and right political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for one-world synthesis, i.e. authoritarian socialism controlled by monopoly capital. College textbooks present war and revolution as accidental results of conflicting forces. This is nonsense, says Dr. Sutton. They are created and financed by Wall Street to create a new world order. But you won't read this in history books.

"Our Western history is every bit as distorted, censored and largely useless as that of Hitler's Germany or the Soviet Union or Communist China..." www.savethemales.ca...



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Then why is there any regulation at all??


Why is trump deregulating things, if it is all the same people??

Because it is not the same people.. it is thousands of individual groups all competing for power.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Then why does nothing that matters ever change? Why do the two party's work together to crush all outsiders? Why is it all done with the entire MSM? Why does the entire MSM follow the same script? Why do the wars, police state, surveillance society, national debt, plundering of America, etc all stay the same no matter which party is in power?

Sure there are groups, and then there are the Primary Power Elites, and they their Corporatocracy RULES, and all the stuff they have the left and the right squabble about that is their smoke & mirrored curtain. And we're all suckers to fall for it like any of it even REALLY matters, like all that is even 'real', like they even care about poor people or minority groups, or even whites, etc. There is Them, and US, and everyone who carries the Two Party Torches are their minions whether witting or unwitting. And we all know it deep down. Many just opt out from the entire process whether or not they're conscious of why they do it. Most into it all they know it deep down too, but they're in denial. It's easier to just argue with the plebs for sport, or whatever, as at least they can be accessed. It's why the SJW's blame everyday white people for our problems, instead of the sources (the billionaire robberbarrons that fund their groups).




posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Oh, by the way, in practice, regulations tend to only squash the little guys. The big boys they already have the funds etc etc to jump thru all the regulatory hoops, where little newcomers rarely have any hope of climbing their way up to the plateaus of hurdles let alone beginning to jump over them. Just look at the patent system in this bitch, for starters. It's downhill from there.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
I go old school:
The stronger the government, the more left it is
The weaker the government the more right it is

Historically, the left has wanted to improve things by change, and especially to shift power from old establishments and aristocracies and broaden out the base of power.
The right has wanted to keep things good by resisting change.
That distinction has always worked as a description of European politics, and it will work even for American politics today. What is the common factor in everything the Democrats want to do? Is it not "change"? And their opponents want to resist the change.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: JoshuaCox

Yes, there is third option.

Myself.

I trust myself.

Abdicating my trust in myself to place that faith in some other human entity is what you all are going on and on about.

Even on issues where I admit I don't know (health care), I still trust myself to decide which doctors and further providers (insurance) are better for me in my current situation.



Then you are trusting big buisness, because without a government to regulate them , they do whatever the hell they want. Planet and population be damned..

This months quarterly returns are all that matter.


You have just fallen for the corporate propaganda specifically meant to make you distrust the concept of the institutions rather than the corrupt individuals themselves..


(Fill in the blank examples of union corruption)= the concept of a union is corrupt..


(Fill in the blank examples of government corruption) = the concept of a government is corrupt.

Yet again one of those logical fallacies with their own funny little Latin name..



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson



Right and Left is subjectively debatable imo.




posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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I will quote Gary Lloyd who sums up my views perfectly...

"When the government’s boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence."



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Because I *must* do business with a corrupt business?

Or you just assume that everyone else is too stupid *not* to do business with a corrupt business?

Or you just assume that every business is corrupt by default?

But you position trusts that government will always and without question act in *your* best interest and not in the best interest of another corrupt entity like a business because government itself *is* a corrupt entity.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Easy ,

The Left - Communists ,Socialists , Marxists , Radical Progressive Liberalism .


The Right - Big Money Capitalists , Self Reliant Blue Collar Patriotic Working American Citizens , Constitutionalist , The Rule of Law .



Big Difference Between the 2 , Eh ?............)



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

In individual cases regulation CAN hurt the little guys.. there is no law of physics that says it has to..


Mainly that happens due to BIG BUISNESS interests writing loopholes for themselves into the law through bribery.

Then they point to their own corruption and say, “hey look how corrupt that is, don’t trust them to regulate me any more at all”.



WE FINALLY have the ability to track every dollar and effectively end corruption, so instead the propaganda whores have changed the narrative to mistrust the CONCEPT of a government, rather than the specific corrupt individuals raping and pillaging.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

No but things that are horrible for the environment and the population as a whole are quite often intensely profitable..

Without someone to step in and decide the profit isn’t worth it, good luck.

The government is the only institution that can do that..



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:08 PM
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It's sort of weirdly horribly horrifyingly funny watching ATS try to define what the 'left' and 'right' are.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Conservative , Liberal , Rep , Dem , They ALL Wet Their Beak in some Way or Another with the Wealth of this Great Nation . They have a Piece of Everyone of Us from Birth . The Trick is .........




"Duck and cover" - A Method of personal protection against the Effects of a Personal Wealth explosion .






Learn to Make your Own Money , then Keep it Out of the Hands of These Money Grubbin' Sums of Bee Othches..........)



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: ketsuko

No but things that are horrible for the environment and the population as a whole are quite often intensely profitable..

Without someone to step in and decide the profit isn’t worth it, good luck.

The government is the only institution that can do that..



Are you Talking about China or the United States here ? I am Confused..............



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Not really ..

It is just that neither is some monolithic organism that are all on the same news letter..


Right= tradition > change

Left= Change> traditions


If you notice all right wing change is couched in a narrative of “returning to some past way of doing things”.


“Make America great again”..


Progress always wins though.. that doesn’t mean the left is always right, but what is right always and inherently comes out of the left.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
It's sort of weirdly horribly horrifyingly funny watching ATS try to define what the 'left' and 'right' are.



Not Really , We All Know it is Pretty Cut and Dry..................



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: SocratesJohnson

IMO, in a nutshell....

Left: "Unacceptable, we must change it because someone is being discriminated against".
Right: "Unacceptable - we must keep it the same because someone is being discriminated against".



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