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originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: UKTruth
What is this country coming to when we detain people for opinions???
I would like to see the official reason for the detention. It might not have been put in those terms.
I suspect it will have been under the public safety remit where they believe there is a risk of incitement of violence.
People can argue about the right or wrong of that, but I suspect many of those complaining would be the first to applaud if it was an Islamic preacher detained for the same reason.
Well one is just a journalist, with whom one can agree or disagree with. The other leads a group of people along their line of thinking. Should that Imam believe in Jihad against the west, at least some might develop those same beliefs. Of course in both instances proof is required before detainment. Its really apples to oranges, but nice try.
Nope completely comparable preaching hate is preaching hate
Prove that the journalist was preaching hate. And by that I mean the general standard of hate, not your own personal standard, because that would be nonsense in a debate.
I don't have to prove anything as I am not a lawyer involved in the case. I do know the rules for detaining someone require more than just they are going to interview someone.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
I suspect it will have been under the public safety remit where they believe there is a risk of incitement of violence.
People can argue about the right or wrong of that, but I suspect many of those complaining would be the first to applaud if it was an Islamic preacher detained for the same reason.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: UKTruth
What is this country coming to when we detain people for opinions???
I would like to see the official reason for the detention. It might not have been put in those terms.
I suspect it will have been under the public safety remit where they believe there is a risk of incitement of violence.
People can argue about the right or wrong of that, but I suspect many of those complaining would be the first to applaud if it was an Islamic preacher detained for the same reason.
Well one is just a journalist, with whom one can agree or disagree with. The other leads a group of people along their line of thinking. Should that Imam believe in Jihad against the west, at least some might develop those same beliefs. Of course in both instances proof is required before detainment. Its really apples to oranges, but nice try.
Nope completely comparable preaching hate is preaching hate
Prove that the journalist was preaching hate. And by that I mean the general standard of hate, not your own personal standard, because that would be nonsense in a debate.
I don't have to prove anything as I am not a lawyer involved in the case. I do know the rules for detaining someone require more than just they are going to interview someone.
Yup and that’s the big point.
I suspect there is another side to this story.
You don’t just get detained like that because your going to have a chat with someone.
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Canadian journalist @Lauren_Southern has just been detained by UK border police
10:58 PM · Mar 11, 2018
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: UKTruth
What is this country coming to when we detain people for opinions???
I would like to see the official reason for the detention. It might not have been put in those terms.
I suspect it will have been under the public safety remit where they believe there is a risk of incitement of violence.
People can argue about the right or wrong of that, but I suspect many of those complaining would be the first to applaud if it was an Islamic preacher detained for the same reason.
Well one is just a journalist, with whom one can agree or disagree with. The other leads a group of people along their line of thinking. Should that Imam believe in Jihad against the west, at least some might develop those same beliefs. Of course in both instances proof is required before detainment. Its really apples to oranges, but nice try.
Nope completely comparable preaching hate is preaching hate
Prove that the journalist was preaching hate. And by that I mean the general standard of hate, not your own personal standard, because that would be nonsense in a debate.
I do know the rules for detaining someone require more than just they are going to interview someone.
Indeed, which is why this is such a disgrace.
You finally get it.
You are the one claiming they are being detained for planning an interview. Show the evidence of you claim.
Firstly that is not my claim.
It would help if you actually read instead of jumping in to defend the arrest of a completely innocent person.
'They' were not detained for planning an interview. She was detained because she was going to do an interview, her partner was detained because he was going to give a speech... on free speech.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: DISRAELI
originally posted by: UKTruth
What is this country coming to when we detain people for opinions???
I would like to see the official reason for the detention. It might not have been put in those terms.
I suspect it will have been under the public safety remit where they believe there is a risk of incitement of violence.
People can argue about the right or wrong of that, but I suspect many of those complaining would be the first to applaud if it was an Islamic preacher detained for the same reason.
Well one is just a journalist, with whom one can agree or disagree with. The other leads a group of people along their line of thinking. Should that Imam believe in Jihad against the west, at least some might develop those same beliefs. Of course in both instances proof is required before detainment. Its really apples to oranges, but nice try.
Nope completely comparable preaching hate is preaching hate
Prove that the journalist was preaching hate. And by that I mean the general standard of hate, not your own personal standard, because that would be nonsense in a debate.
I don't have to prove anything as I am not a lawyer involved in the case. I do know the rules for detaining someone require more than just they are going to interview someone.
You're making the claim that she preaches hate. If that were true, it should be easy enough to prove with verifiable evidence.
originally posted by: Hazardous1408
This is incredible to read... for a number of reasons...
Firstly, because some of you actually believe this sh*t enough to say “rock bottom” with nothing but her own testimony...
But secondly, and even more incredibly, Colnbrook Detention Centre is a male-only holding Centre...
So either she is mistaken as to where they kept her, or is totally full of bollocks.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
I know which is more likely, for sure.
originally posted by: Tempter
I'm sure it's just a coincidence, right?
mobile.twitter.com...
Canadian journalist @Lauren_Southern has just been detained by UK border police
10:58 PM · Mar 11, 2018
Hint, new development....
originally posted by: UKTruth
For those that want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that conservatives are not being targeted, I hope you can explain how the arrest, detainment and deportation of these people is not entirely due to political beliefs.