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The UK has hit rock bottom - detaining a US citizen because she was to interview Tommy Robinson

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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: bastion

Hahahaha.

Any clue to how long they were held?

It wasn't three days.


Firstly, I have no opinions on their personal politics...to each his own, but here is a video of them explaining what happened, and it appears that they were indeed held for three days.



Fancy thumbnails and youtube views.

Sorry but she seems to be the type to revel in this. Something else to moan about.

I have no other opinions on wrong/right.




posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Navieko

Or maybe we don't want the likes here nor need them here.

Hypocrisy much?


We can refuse entry especially when the documents of the visitors is not in order.

So what about the thousands flooding the UK with no paperwork whatsoever?
You are aware of the double standard you harbor right?
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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Navieko

As others have pointed out the UK government can refuse entry, other nations do it and often the reasons are pathetic... Someone posted a few disgraceful cases from the US earlier in the thread.

With all things official one must get their story straight. In the orders of officialdom I dar say travelling to a foreign nation is pretty high... Visa's, embassy visits, if it's the US social media checks.

Very serious business.

No censorship here, if anything it was a case of self-censorship. That picture took too long to surface. Didn't it?

Seen the little muppets that follow Tommy Robinson?

They're as unhinged as him, one of the reasons he is a person of high interest.




Wow... looks like the social framework is quickly being setup to outlaw anyone/anything deemed "too far" to the right. 


Or maybe we don't want the likes here nor need them here.

Hypocrisy much?


We can refuse entry especially when the documents of the visitors is not in order.

So what about the thousands flooding the UK with no paperwork whatsoever?
You are aware of the double standard you harbor right?


The vast majority of people held in detention centres are those without paperwork.

So where exactly is the hypocrisy?



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: andrewh7
a reply to: UKTruth

You guys are all about controlling the US borders. Here, however, the UK decides that it doesn't want this person entering their country, it's a travesty. So, they didn't want a racist coming into their country. That's their prerogative. The US can refuse entry to whoever they want as well. Someone in her group clearly tipped off the border agents so she could play the martyr. Well done. I'm sure some of you bought it.


I would have little problem if she was refused entry on clear evidence that she was a racist. Accusations from liberal media and interviews she has done with people like Cernovic are not grounds for declaring her racist. If she wants to preserve white western culture, that does not make her racist.
When finger pointing starts dictating border patrol then we're in 'burn the witch' territory and it seems that many find that acceptable, including the UK border force. That's a real problem.

More importantly, though, even if they wanted to refuse her entry, I can not understand why they had to detain her for 3 days, put her in prison with people who might hurt her (by their own admission) and separate her from her partner giving her no word of his whereabouts or condition. That is North Korea style authoritarianism and it should repulse people whether they are conservatives or not.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: yuppa




Ah there we go. suspected terrorist incitrment of right wing or left wingers and that will be how they excuse it


Maybe they were held on terrorism charges, maybe they were complicit in a conspiracy to commit murder?

They didn't say anything on why they were held, somebody is being disingenuous.



 i know a few who sat in detention when they could not find a judge over 3 says.local. you never hear bout em. what about refusal to pay chiold support? its not a crime in my state but people get time for it.If it was a crime they would grant bond but since it not a crime they dont. 
point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Get with the program...

We're on about the UK not the US, so any experience you or people you know have had with the law system within the US holds absolutely nothing in regards to English law and the workings of such law.



point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Yeah. In the US.

However I do know of cases where people were held for illegal periods of time. One of them pretty well... It doesn't happen often and never to high profile cases of which this has evolved to seemingly.

I keep reading posts that suggest the UK government is the UK police. It does not work like that. It's just ignorance to suggest such things.


I assume you read that letter pictured? I called it and I was right about them assuming they would stir up trouble and that was a reason they were held.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: andrewh7
a reply to: UKTruth

You guys are all about controlling the US borders. Here, however, the UK decides that it doesn't want this person entering their country, it's a travesty. So, they didn't want a racist coming into their country. That's their prerogative. The US can refuse entry to whoever they want as well. Someone in her group clearly tipped off the border agents so she could play the martyr. Well done. I'm sure some of you bought it.


Arrests are one thing, barring travel is another, and illegal immigration yet another still. No one is saying Mexicans should be barred from travelling to the U.S. They can take a plane ticket and come here whenever they like. The issue is with them permanently staying here with no qualification, and neither legally immigrating nor taking the procedures to legally extend their stay.

Also I hear like 90% of girls and women are raped if they journey with people smugglers across the desert. That stuff should be barred, if only to reduce the rapes.

The UK is a police state becoming ever more totalitarian day by day.


You do know the US also has rules about barring people from entering?


Last I heard Trump was in trouble in the MSM for barring entry from terrorist hotbed countries.

As for the UK isn't this the silly police state that is even considering blocking online porn? Such audacity, they may bar the weak but never those who are truly strong. Once the core of the body of truth is written down in the proper medium, they will learn the true meaning of submission.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: yuppa




Ah there we go. suspected terrorist incitrment of right wing or left wingers and that will be how they excuse it


Maybe they were held on terrorism charges, maybe they were complicit in a conspiracy to commit murder?

They didn't say anything on why they were held, somebody is being disingenuous.



 i know a few who sat in detention when they could not find a judge over 3 says.local. you never hear bout em. what about refusal to pay chiold support? its not a crime in my state but people get time for it.If it was a crime they would grant bond but since it not a crime they dont. 
point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Get with the program...

We're on about the UK not the US, so any experience you or people you know have had with the law system within the US holds absolutely nothing in regards to English law and the workings of such law.



point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Yeah. In the US.

However I do know of cases where people were held for illegal periods of time. One of them pretty well... It doesn't happen often and never to high profile cases of which this has evolved to seemingly.

I keep reading posts that suggest the UK government is the UK police. It does not work like that. It's just ignorance to suggest such things.


I assume you read that letter pictured? I called it and I was right about them assuming they would stir up trouble and that was a reason they were held.


That's the sum of it - guilt, arrest, incarceration by assumption.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: andrewh7
a reply to: UKTruth

You guys are all about controlling the US borders. Here, however, the UK decides that it doesn't want this person entering their country, it's a travesty. So, they didn't want a racist coming into their country. That's their prerogative. The US can refuse entry to whoever they want as well. Someone in her group clearly tipped off the border agents so she could play the martyr. Well done. I'm sure some of you bought it.


Arrests are one thing, barring travel is another, and illegal immigration yet another still. No one is saying Mexicans should be barred from travelling to the U.S. They can take a plane ticket and come here whenever they like. The issue is with them permanently staying here with no qualification, and neither legally immigrating nor taking the procedures to legally extend their stay.

Also I hear like 90% of girls and women are raped if they journey with people smugglers across the desert. That stuff should be barred, if only to reduce the rapes.

The UK is a police state becoming ever more totalitarian day by day.


You do know the US also has rules about barring people from entering?


Last I heard Trump was in trouble in the MSM for barring entry from terrorist hotbed countries.

As for the UK isn't this the silly police state that is even considering blocking online porn? Such audacity, they may bar the weak but never those who are truly strong. Once the core of the body of truth is written down in the proper medium, they will learn the true meaning of submission.


Did that make sense in your head when you wrote it?



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Navieko

As others have pointed out the UK government can refuse entry, other nations do it and often the reasons are pathetic... Someone posted a few disgraceful cases from the US earlier in the thread.

With all things official one must get their story straight. In the orders of officialdom I dar say travelling to a foreign nation is pretty high... Visa's, embassy visits, if it's the US social media checks.

Very serious business.

No censorship here, if anything it was a case of self-censorship. That picture took too long to surface. Didn't it?

Seen the little muppets that follow Tommy Robinson?

They're as unhinged as him, one of the reasons he is a person of high interest.




Wow... looks like the social framework is quickly being setup to outlaw anyone/anything deemed "too far" to the right. 


Or maybe we don't want the likes here nor need them here.

Hypocrisy much?


We can refuse entry especially when the documents of the visitors is not in order.

So what about the thousands flooding the UK with no paperwork whatsoever?
You are aware of the double standard you harbor right?


The vast majority of people held in detention centres are those without paperwork.

So where exactly is the hypocrisy?

You all are advocating striping someone of basic freedoms because of their political ideology.
Yet not a one questions the ideology of the people in these detention centers. Hypocrisy...



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Navieko

As others have pointed out the UK government can refuse entry, other nations do it and often the reasons are pathetic... Someone posted a few disgraceful cases from the US earlier in the thread.

With all things official one must get their story straight. In the orders of officialdom I dar say travelling to a foreign nation is pretty high... Visa's, embassy visits, if it's the US social media checks.

Very serious business.

No censorship here, if anything it was a case of self-censorship. That picture took too long to surface. Didn't it?

Seen the little muppets that follow Tommy Robinson?

They're as unhinged as him, one of the reasons he is a person of high interest.




Wow... looks like the social framework is quickly being setup to outlaw anyone/anything deemed "too far" to the right. 


Or maybe we don't want the likes here nor need them here.

Hypocrisy much?


We can refuse entry especially when the documents of the visitors is not in order.

So what about the thousands flooding the UK with no paperwork whatsoever?
You are aware of the double standard you harbor right?


The vast majority of people held in detention centres are those without paperwork.

So where exactly is the hypocrisy?

You all are advocating striping someone of basic freedoms because of their political ideology.
Yet not a one questions the ideology of the people in these detention centers. Hypocrisy...


People in the detention centres will get questioned quite a lot actually.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: yuppa




Ah there we go. suspected terrorist incitrment of right wing or left wingers and that will be how they excuse it


Maybe they were held on terrorism charges, maybe they were complicit in a conspiracy to commit murder?

They didn't say anything on why they were held, somebody is being disingenuous.



 i know a few who sat in detention when they could not find a judge over 3 says.local. you never hear bout em. what about refusal to pay chiold support? its not a crime in my state but people get time for it.If it was a crime they would grant bond but since it not a crime they dont. 
point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Get with the program...

We're on about the UK not the US, so any experience you or people you know have had with the law system within the US holds absolutely nothing in regards to English law and the workings of such law.



point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Yeah. In the US.

However I do know of cases where people were held for illegal periods of time. One of them pretty well... It doesn't happen often and never to high profile cases of which this has evolved to seemingly.

I keep reading posts that suggest the UK government is the UK police. It does not work like that. It's just ignorance to suggest such things.


I assume you read that letter pictured? I called it and I was right about them assuming they would stir up trouble and that was a reason they were held.


That's the sum of it - guilt, arrest, incarceration by assumption.


They were in possession of literature with intent to distribute that outlined that violence would ensue if they were granted entry. That's the equivalent of grassing yourself up to police.

If they'd tried to travel without that or come up with a vaguely sensible/reasonable claim they were there for pleasure/tourism/cultural experience they would probably have been waved through. Carry material like that on your person if asking for trouble.

They don't appear to have been arrested at all, with less than 36 hours between UK arrival and pictures of them in Austria on the Sunday morning.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: gortex




Sounds like the kind of person we should be stopping entering the country.


One day this sort of statist thought policing will bite you in your own ass, if it hasn't already.

I doubt it , we have enough of our own white nationalist without letting foreign ones in to spew their bile and offer support from over the pond.

Britain banned Louis Farrakhan from these shores decades ago for the same reasons.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: andrewh7
a reply to: UKTruth

You guys are all about controlling the US borders. Here, however, the UK decides that it doesn't want this person entering their country, it's a travesty. So, they didn't want a racist coming into their country. That's their prerogative. The US can refuse entry to whoever they want as well. Someone in her group clearly tipped off the border agents so she could play the martyr. Well done. I'm sure some of you bought it.


Arrests are one thing, barring travel is another, and illegal immigration yet another still. No one is saying Mexicans should be barred from travelling to the U.S. They can take a plane ticket and come here whenever they like. The issue is with them permanently staying here with no qualification, and neither legally immigrating nor taking the procedures to legally extend their stay.

Also I hear like 90% of girls and women are raped if they journey with people smugglers across the desert. That stuff should be barred, if only to reduce the rapes.

The UK is a police state becoming ever more totalitarian day by day.


You do know the US also has rules about barring people from entering?


Last I heard Trump was in trouble in the MSM for barring entry from terrorist hotbed countries.

As for the UK isn't this the silly police state that is even considering blocking online porn? Such audacity, they may bar the weak but never those who are truly strong. Once the core of the body of truth is written down in the proper medium, they will learn the true meaning of submission.


Did that make sense in your head when you wrote it?




You don't need to be able to understand it to be affected by it. But know that there are those who can.



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

Do you have your own opinion or does YouTube do your thinking for you?



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: yuppa




Ah there we go. suspected terrorist incitrment of right wing or left wingers and that will be how they excuse it


Maybe they were held on terrorism charges, maybe they were complicit in a conspiracy to commit murder?

They didn't say anything on why they were held, somebody is being disingenuous.



 i know a few who sat in detention when they could not find a judge over 3 says.local. you never hear bout em. what about refusal to pay chiold support? its not a crime in my state but people get time for it.If it was a crime they would grant bond but since it not a crime they dont. 
point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Get with the program...

We're on about the UK not the US, so any experience you or people you know have had with the law system within the US holds absolutely nothing in regards to English law and the workings of such law.



point is they do hld pople 3 days or more without crimes.


Yeah. In the US.

However I do know of cases where people were held for illegal periods of time. One of them pretty well... It doesn't happen often and never to high profile cases of which this has evolved to seemingly.

I keep reading posts that suggest the UK government is the UK police. It does not work like that. It's just ignorance to suggest such things.


I assume you read that letter pictured? I called it and I was right about them assuming they would stir up trouble and that was a reason they were held.


That's the sum of it - guilt, arrest, incarceration by assumption.


They were in possession of literature with intent to distribute that outlined that violence would ensue if they were granted entry. That's the equivalent of grassing yourself up to police.

If they'd tried to travel without that or come up with a vaguely sensible/reasonable claim they were there for pleasure/tourism/cultural experience they would probably have been waved through. Carry material like that on your person if asking for trouble.

They don't appear to have been arrested at all, with less than 36 hours between UK arrival and pictures of them in Austria on the Sunday morning.


They were detained on Friday 9th after landing at 1pm, held at the airport, then transferred for incarceration. They spent Friday, all of Saturday and then most of Sunday detained... finally being flown out of the UK to Austria on an early evening flight. Might be hard for her to have been in Austria on Sunday morning, given her flight was at 525pm on Sunday evening.

By the way, they were held in a prison where a murder recently took place - it's no wonder Miss Pettibone was told that she might be in danger if she spoke about the reason she was in jail.
edit on 13/3/2018 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: Xenogears

Do you have your own opinion or does YouTube do your thinking for you?


B-b-but Lauren so pretty tho



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 06:41 PM
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It gets worse.

Laura Southem, the second conservative woman detained at Calais was arrested under the Terrorism Act and says she questioned for hours in a small room, including questions about her religion and how she felt about running over Muslims with a truck. She says she was threatened with being detained for days and having to undergo medical tests, including blood tests, if she refused to give the pin code for her phone and password for her laptop. Her father was called and informed his daughter had been arrested under the terrorism act.

She was eventually banned from the country and taken to the French side of the border and left there to find her own way.




posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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Stefan Molyneux is not my favourite person.



Sargon is much more bearable.
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posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth


remember remember the 5th of november...
the gunpowder treason and plot...
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
should ever be forgot...



posted on Mar, 13 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: AboveDogSecret

im going to message the UK and tell them to ban me because they are such hypocrites i wont ever visit them.




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