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Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage

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posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: intrepid
I'm sure there's someone at Ancestry.com that could be paid to fudge a test.


There is no law against it unless it is court ordered.


I'm in the land of "no issue". That was sarcasm.




posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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Maybe she is Native American. I saw her doing the Tomohawk Chop at an Atlanta Braves game.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: DupontDeux

originally posted by: rickymouse
Columbus had access to old maps, that is how he knew this place was here, that info is on the web in places, researched by historians over the years. But people do not believe that evidence, because Columbus discovered America was taught to us.


No, people do not believe that, because it is fairly well (as in 'really well') established that Columbus set out to reach the Indies (south Asia) and initially believed that he had done so.

It is that initial belief that led to the natives being called 'Indians' - a name that stuck around for quite some time and thus for half a millennium was testament to his mistake.


He misinterpreted where the map would lead him. He assumed it was going to be the Indies, not the Americas. There are articles about him having a map done by people who researched this some years back, they looked at the information that was written at the time that acquired him funding for this. The heads of the government and businesses in Spain were not going to start giving him money if he did not have some evidence to show that it would pay off. It said where he had gotten the maritime map but I do not remember.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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Digging deeper into her answer on this, her main point seems to be that she was taught by her parents that her mother was Native American and therefore raised that with that knowledge. Speaking as someone who has a family member who lied about being a Native American for over 40 years, I can say this probably isn't her fault. How many of you would question your parents about something like that? In fact, my parents had always taught me that my ancestors in the Southern US were too poor to have owned slaves, and I echoed that line whenever the subject came up. However, once I researched my ancestry, it turns out there were slaves on both sides of the family. If the Harvard professor that hired her can be believed when he said "I didn't even know about her heritage when I hired her" then this is just another overhyped "gotcha" story from the Rightstream Media. I



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:44 PM
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Lolll....seriously..IF you are from south of the Mason Dixon line (and even north of it for several states) , there isn't a family there that didn't clain "indian blood" , mainly "Cherokee"...however ridiculous it sounds....that's a fact. The funny thing is, the realization that your great grandma or grandpa, so pearly white, would have had sex with an indian buck just after the Indian Wars makes tge whole thingmore ridiculous.....but facts are facts....brought up in the South, h
claiming to be "part Cherokee" was ubiquitious.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:48 PM
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Despicable. Yet another example of someone abusing the "equal opportunity" (forced hiring-esque BS) laws to get ahead of us "non-disadvantaged" folks.

I don't feel very "non-disadvantaged" though. Tucker Carlson ran a great program the other night, showing the state of affairs for American Men are not as rosy as the far left would have you believe. Turns out the socialists can spew faux-outrage when the facts they base their BS on is called out for being...BS



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:54 PM
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I'm no Senator Warren fan, but it could just be pride(???) that would prevent her from taking a DNA test. It seems like someone in her position of power could easily see agreeing to the test as being beneath them.

Either that or she's lying.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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Well, if that's the criteria, then just about the entire city of Kansas City is Native American unless you're one of those few poor beknighted souls that cheers for the Raiders or Broncos or something.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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I totally dislike her, but I don't think she purposefully "lied"... (I dislike her more for the stuff she actually does on purpose, hehe)

Just like my dad used to say we had a lot more indian in the family (something I found untrue after coming upon the true geneology).

I'm actually even more (proud seems the wrong word) of my real ancestry, because we've been here since before the US was a nation. Hey, does that make me a native American? I mean, we were here before the Declaration of Independence was even conceived....lol

I'll still call her "Pocahontas" though....just because it's funny, and there is a little evidence she has used this to advantage in the past. I've never been one to be all for this PC nonsense. And you can call me a redneck cracker....I really don't care enough to be upset about it, hehe.



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posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: Gazrok

I guess for me it's one thing to claim it as an interesting family story and it's another to use that story to claim advantage over others.

My husband has a full-blooded grandparent. His adoption paperwork says as much, but he still doesn't claim it as advantage because he was never raised in that culture in any way. He was adopted.

As far as it goes, he has more actual documentation to back a claim than Warren does, but he's never used it to his advantage while she has.
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posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

neither is required .



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

How are they related? The IRS has Trump's tax return, who has this DNA test?



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: howtonhawky

Did she use this alleged ancestry to get preferential treatment in the past? If not, no issue.

If you can find evidence of it that passes muster, then I'll change my tune.



Yes. She used this to get into the University of Texas to the University of Pennsylvania to Harvard, where she then gave up on Republicans and began voting democratic.

Source 1

Source 2



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

Bottomline if you claim something. Have PROOF to back it up. If not, then its a lie. END OF STORY.

No proof = lie.
again, this is not up for debate, its simple common sense.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: SoulSurfer

I have done many things that I have no “proof” other than the experience. Does that make it a lie?



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gazrok

I guess for me it's one thing to claim it as an interesting family story and it's another to use that story to claim advantage over others.

My husband has a full-blooded grandparent. His adoption paperwork says as much, but he still doesn't claim it as advantage because he was never raised in that culture in any way. He was adopted.

As far as it goes, he has more actual documentation to back a claim than Warren does, but he's never used it to his advantage while she has.


I can see why people are upset with her. I think it was foolish and possibly predatory on her part to make that claim based upon family stories alone.

I don't go around claiming a minority status, although, I could. What counts the most at the end of the day is the culture you were brought up in and well, what you wear on your face. I don't wear these other ethnicities on my face. Heck, I didn't even know they were present until I did DNA testing. I look white, although there is an element of "other" that has allowed me to fit in in lots of places. I am culturally white so I act white. I identify as white. Period. It seems disingenuous to claim a minority status to gain an advantage when I have experienced none of the disadvantages that go along with that. I don't know if that is part of your husbands reason or not but it's part (although not all) of it for me.

I will claim those other ethnicities in my heritage though. They are part of who I am genetically if not culturally. All of my ancestors stand behind and I a proud of them, black, white, red, yellow, whatever. Mutts are more robust anyways.

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posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
trump gets away without providing his income tax, but a dem has to take a dna test???
get real!!!


You say "gets away" like there is some legal requirement to do so.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: redhorse

He does claim those other ethnicities as his heritage, but he doesn't use it gain advantage in material ways. He's not going to try to get hired as a minority because of his background. He wouldn't apply for a minority status scholarship.

He is not above trotting it out as interesting trivia.

And he and I are keenly aware that the way things have been trending, he may sadly have to get serious about claiming it to gain or hold material advantage in the not-too-distant future.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
trump gets away without providing his income tax, but a dem has to take a dna test???
get real!!!


Well, her career is done, so we are getting real.



posted on Mar, 12 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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Donald Trump refuses to release his tax returns to prove he's as wealthy as he says he is. *yawn* See how easy it is to make the circle of stupid revolve?




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