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originally posted by: redhorse
a reply to: face23785
I see just as many, spittle slinging, red faced, largely irrational, shuddup-if-you-don't-agree-with-me tactics from the far right. Frankly, they are usually considerably worse. Although, I will admit that more mainstream liberals are far more likely to resort to such things when faced with a difference of ideology or opinions versus more mainstream conservatives.
In his remarkable book The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion, Haidt recalls a telling experiment. He and his colleagues Brian Nosek and Jesse Graham sought to discover how well conservative and what Haidt terms ‘liberal’ (ie: progressive) students understood one another by having them answer moral questions as they thought their political opponents would answer them. “The results were clear and consistent,” remarks Haidt. “In all analyses, conservatives were more accurate than liberals.” Asked to think the way a liberal thinks, conservatives answered moral questions just as the liberal would answer them, but liberal students were unable to do the reverse. Rather, they seemed to put moral ideas into the mouths of conservatives that they don’t hold. To put it bluntly, Haidt and his colleagues found that progressives don’t understand conservatives the way conservatives understand progressives. This he calls the ‘conservative advantage,’ and it goes a long way in explaining the different ways each side deals with opinions unlike their own. People get angry at what they don’t understand, and an all-progressive education ensures that they don’t understand.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Nickn3
I've got some experience too. Every time I say anything that even remotely doesn't compliment guns and their apparent awesomeness, or if I even broach the subject of making guns harder for the bad guys to get, I get attacked, and many times those attacks have been personal and brutal, even though I was debating in a non-personal way. And don't even get me started on the subject of abortions...
We all have our passions - I get that. What I don't get is this claim by the right that it's only the left that take it a little too far sometimes. My mom has been unfriended by several of her conservative "friends" for speaking her liberal views on facebook. That's why I learned not to discuss my politics on social media. It can get too heated on both sides, and I have friends and relatives on both sides.
With that, I'm done with this thread that was posted to make us fight some more. Au revoir...
originally posted by: introvert
Sometimes telling people the truth and telling them that the facts show they are wrong is perceived as being hostile, or being an asshole.
That is not my burden to bear. That is on the person that lacks the desire or ability to receive another person's words without becoming emotional or defensive.
People on both sides can be both the hostile asshole and on the emotional defense. So it would appear that this piece is written to be confirmation bias for those that do not like meanie asshole "Progressives".
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: face23785
Bullying is accomplished by blaming victims for what bullies are about to do to them. Its an excuse to ratchet up a false pretext to attack with force, showing who the true bully is.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: face23785
The leftist, progressive ideology is just as severe as ISIS.
You have to obey or you are the enemy.
You have to support every aspect or you aren't a "true believer".
It's why they are so hostile.
It is their religion, their lifestyle, their whole identity.
Claire Lehmann, the founder of the libertarian-leaning, academia-focused digital magazine Quillette, suggested that the website was a refuge from the political correctness and leftist bias that allegedly plague both academia and the mainstream media.
Conservatives love playing the victim
Quillette is an online magazine founded by Australian writer and former psychology graduate student Claire Lehmann. Quillette was launched in 2015. The magazine has been praised by the evolutionary biologist and writer Richard Dawkins, who described it as a "superb online magazine", and has garnered support by the psychologist Jordan Peterson.
en.wikipedia.org...
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: introvert
Sometimes telling people the truth and telling them that the facts show they are wrong is perceived as being hostile, or being an asshole.
That is not my burden to bear. That is on the person that lacks the desire or ability to receive another person's words without becoming emotional or defensive.
People on both sides can be both the hostile asshole and on the emotional defense. So it would appear that this piece is written to be confirmation bias for those that do not like meanie asshole "Progressives".
It would appear that this comment is written without having read the article, or having completely missed the point.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: introvert
Sometimes telling people the truth and telling them that the facts show they are wrong is perceived as being hostile, or being an asshole.
That is not my burden to bear. That is on the person that lacks the desire or ability to receive another person's words without becoming emotional or defensive.
People on both sides can be both the hostile asshole and on the emotional defense. So it would appear that this piece is written to be confirmation bias for those that do not like meanie asshole "Progressives".
It would appear that this comment is written without having read the article, or having completely missed the point.
I read it and responded accordingly.
It seems to be a piece that relies on logical fallacies, confirmation bias and emotions.
You may want to read up on the source you are using and the tactics they employ.
theoutline.com...
ISIS and ‘American’ leftist progressive liberal Democrats. They may sound different but they really are’t much different. While ‘American’ progressive may not behead someone who they disagree with they will instead smear, hassle and try to ruin anyone who doesn’t toe the line. ISIS just beheads people or burns people alive when someone disagrees with them. So far, ‘American’ progressives haven’t evolved to that, YET.
If an ‘American’ leftist doesn’t like something, they just destroy it, just like ISIS. If an ‘American’ leftist doesn’t like you, or thinks you did something that’s not acceptable to the leftist ideology, they will personally try to destroy you will smears, harassment and sometimes violence. A perfect example of the leftist Democrat smear merchants is George Takei. ‘Sulu’ as he’s better known as called Clarence Thomas a ‘Clown in Black Face’ because he voted against gay marriage. Takei or Sulu didn’t like that, so he smeared Clarence Thomas with racist attacks. Did you hear about this in the media? Of course not! Because they protect their own. I don’t even know if this was brought up on Fox News at all last week. If it was, I didn’t see it.
Any leftist wondering if i’m comparing them to terrorist, yea I am. They like to compare the tea party to the Taliban, so why not show how leftist progressives are very similar to terrorists. Leftists hate this country, just like terrorists. Leftists hate the military, just like terrorists. Leftists hate capitalism and so do terrorists. So tell me again, how do leftists really differ from terrorists?
ISIS vs leftist progressives. Figure it out yet?