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posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is a whole porn industry based on pooping too.

Does that mean if I create a campaign ad where I defecate live on camera and people object to it, it must be because they're all secretly turned on by it?

Please ...



No one is debating whether they should be able to poop in public spaces in front of children and everyone else, despite their opposition to it. No one is claiming that its "Natural" therefore accepted publicly, to poop on the mall floor in front of someone else's child. Your example hardly applies here.


Happens in China all the time.




posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.

The fact that you clearly have issues with women's breasts (in fact women generally) but they are your issues.

Just stop creepy staring at women in public and the whole problem is solved.


No YOU'RE not getting it. Just as much as you think I am forcing MY ideas down your throat, or telling others what they can and cannot do. You are doing the same, with the assumption that I should just allow a woman to do whatever the hell she wants, simply because she calls it natural and won't respect the opinions of others. Mine is simply an opinion that you can't deal with...women are 'ACTING' on their opinions, no matter what anyone thinks..even if they don't approve. It is they who are forcing their opinions on other's you are making excuses for them.




You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.


Were a man to pull out his penis in front of you and take a leak, would your statement still apply? It's a natural process of the human body, and you can't tell him what to do right? That would be an imposition on your part wouldn't it? Or are you just another woman hiding behind the veil of double standards?



A woman breastfeeding in public is not doing anything to you.

You forcing women not to breastfeed in public is doing something to them.

The fact you even need this explaining is mind blowing.


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You couldn't make less sense.

Just because they don't breast feed in public, doesn't mean they can't breast feed period. They can go to designated areas, stay in their car, if at a grocery store they can go to a changing room, or they can use breast pump machines to do all of this before even leaving the home, and put it into bottles. I can't believe that I had to explain that!

No it doesn't hurt me at all. It upsets parents that don't want their kids seeing it. Suggesting that women to find a more reasonable, private place to breast feed (like they've always done)....is not hurting them either. So, again..you left out some information there, or rather part of the story.


Saying they can't breastfeed in public is you controlling them. The onus is on you to give a reason they should not be allowed to do it.

The fact that you find it icky or are unable to control yourself isn't a valid reason


Ok..clearly you're still not reading before responding..so I am simply going to copy and paste my reasons from just 5 posts back...and on this very page. This is getting to be ridiculous at this point. You're not even reading my posts, or you wouldn't keep asking the same questions over and over. I AM reading yours, and you still haven't answered my questions as to why women absolutely NEED to do this in public, whereas all of recent history has determined that doing it in private has no ill effects on them or their babies. Here is the forced double post...please read it this time...THESE ARE MY REASONS!

#1) Their children, and how they want to raise them, is being taken away by those physically forcing their views on others.

#2) I gave evidence (above with an image) that this is indeed a sexual fantasy for many men out there. I like boobs, and I'll admit that, they are a sexual turn on every time me and my wife do (whatever). My wife seems to know this, as she always makes it a point that I see them to get turned on. Lactation and the other I am not fascinated by...but there is a porn industry online where many men are.


3) As a result of this Porn Industry, there may be some really sick and twisted men out there that would rape or harm women who pull their breasts out in public, follow them outside, and sexually assault her, as a result of "her begging for it" from his filter in which he perceived the act. It happens, some men get turned on by women who show their lesser seen body parts, and sexually assault them thinking that the woman asked for it....and NO, I KNOW WHERE YOU WILL GO WITH THIS, AND I AM NOT SUPPORTING THEM OR MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM. I AM MERELY SAYING THAT ITS A REALITY AND IT DOES HAPPEN.

4) I have seen, with my own eyes, the nipples of women re-positioning the baby, or taking it away after a feeding is completed. Chances are I am not the only one in the world, and yes...that is less than even minimal prudishness.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is a whole porn industry based on pooping too.

Does that mean if I create a campaign ad where I defecate live on camera and people object to it, it must be because they're all secretly turned on by it?

Please ...



No one is debating whether they should be able to poop in public spaces in front of children and everyone else, despite their opposition to it. No one is claiming that its "Natural" therefore accepted publicly, to poop on the mall floor in front of someone else's child. Your example hardly applies here.


Happens in China all the time.




We are not China. You can't even walk on the beaches of India because of all the poop there...but I like to think that we in the Western Hemisphere are a little more civilized than that. We are quickly headed in that direction however, as a result of women and their forced beliefs (using the media to help them) and then condemning anyone else who speaks out against them with public shame or emasculation tactics. That crap doesn't work on me, and I will sling every bit of their crap right back in their faces. I don't want, nor do I need friends, and this social media garbage is nothing more than a tool of oppression for those who are protected by the media and the government..ie. Liberal women. I am going to speak the truth, whether it is popular or not, and if it's a bitter pill for you or anyone else to swallow.....So what.
edit on 11-3-2018 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.

The fact that you clearly have issues with women's breasts (in fact women generally) but they are your issues.

Just stop creepy staring at women in public and the whole problem is solved.


No YOU'RE not getting it. Just as much as you think I am forcing MY ideas down your throat, or telling others what they can and cannot do. You are doing the same, with the assumption that I should just allow a woman to do whatever the hell she wants, simply because she calls it natural and won't respect the opinions of others. Mine is simply an opinion that you can't deal with...women are 'ACTING' on their opinions, no matter what anyone thinks..even if they don't approve. It is they who are forcing their opinions on other's you are making excuses for them.




You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.


Were a man to pull out his penis in front of you and take a leak, would your statement still apply? It's a natural process of the human body, and you can't tell him what to do right? That would be an imposition on your part wouldn't it? Or are you just another woman hiding behind the veil of double standards?



A woman breastfeeding in public is not doing anything to you.

You forcing women not to breastfeed in public is doing something to them.

The fact you even need this explaining is mind blowing.


-------------------------


You couldn't make less sense.

Just because they don't breast feed in public, doesn't mean they can't breast feed period. They can go to designated areas, stay in their car, if at a grocery store they can go to a changing room, or they can use breast pump machines to do all of this before even leaving the home, and put it into bottles. I can't believe that I had to explain that!

No it doesn't hurt me at all. It upsets parents that don't want their kids seeing it. Suggesting that women to find a more reasonable, private place to breast feed (like they've always done)....is not hurting them either. So, again..you left out some information there, or rather part of the story.


Saying they can't breastfeed in public is you controlling them. The onus is on you to give a reason they should not be allowed to do it.

The fact that you find it icky or are unable to control yourself isn't a valid reason


Ok..clearly you're still not reading before responding..so I am simply going to copy and paste my reasons from just 5 posts back...and on this very page. This is getting to be ridiculous at this point. You're not even reading my posts, or you wouldn't keep asking the same questions over and over. I AM reading yours, and you still haven't answered my questions as to why women absolutely NEED to do this in public, whereas all of recent history has determined that doing it in private has no ill effects on them or their babies. Here is the forced double post...please read it this time...THESE ARE MY REASONS!

#1) Their children, and how they want to raise them, is being taken away by those physically forcing their views on others.

#2) I gave evidence (above with an image) that this is indeed a sexual fantasy for many men out there. I like boobs, and I'll admit that, they are a sexual turn on every time me and my wife do (whatever). My wife seems to know this, as she always makes it a point that I see them to get turned on. Lactation and the other I am not fascinated by...but there is a porn industry online where many men are.


3) As a result of this Porn Industry, there may be some really sick and twisted men out there that would rape or harm women who pull their breasts out in public, follow them outside, and sexually assault her, as a result of "her begging for it" from his filter in which he perceived the act. It happens, some men get turned on by women who show their lesser seen body parts, and sexually assault them thinking that the woman asked for it....and NO, I KNOW WHERE YOU WILL GO WITH THIS, AND I AM NOT SUPPORTING THEM OR MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM. I AM MERELY SAYING THAT ITS A REALITY AND IT DOES HAPPEN.

4) I have seen, with my own eyes, the nipples of women re-positioning the baby, or taking it away after a feeding is completed. Chances are I am not the only one in the world, and yes...that is less than even minimal prudishness.


How many things do you Need to do in public?

You OK I we just ban anything you don't absolutely need to do?

None of your reasons are even remotely reasons why it shouldn't be allowed. We don't thankfully don't make rules based on people's sexual peccadiloes.

And again, If you want to stop seeing nipples then stop being creep who stares as women's breasts.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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To all of you who have argued with me. It's as simple as this. Just because a woman CAN breast feed in public, doesn't mean she should. If people disagree with them for doing so, they should take it somewhere else, much like all the Liberals who want us to do the same if we don't agree with their ideologies. If we don't agree with them..then we should just shut up and accept it or be wiling to accept a barrage of insults and buzzwords. I am willing to accept those terms...if they play the same game in the opposite direction.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
To all of you who have argued with me. It's as simple as this. Just because a woman CAN breast feed in public, doesn't mean she should. If people disagree with them for doing so, they should take it somewhere else, much like all the Liberals who want us to do the same if we don't agree with their ideologies. If we don't agree with them..then we should just shut up and accept it or be wiling to accept a barrage of insults and buzzwords. I am willing to accept those terms...if they play the same game in the opposite direction.


How about if a woman breastfeed in public and you have an issue with it you go away.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.

The fact that you clearly have issues with women's breasts (in fact women generally) but they are your issues.

Just stop creepy staring at women in public and the whole problem is solved.


No YOU'RE not getting it. Just as much as you think I am forcing MY ideas down your throat, or telling others what they can and cannot do. You are doing the same, with the assumption that I should just allow a woman to do whatever the hell she wants, simply because she calls it natural and won't respect the opinions of others. Mine is simply an opinion that you can't deal with...women are 'ACTING' on their opinions, no matter what anyone thinks..even if they don't approve. It is they who are forcing their opinions on other's you are making excuses for them.




You still don't get it its not up to people to explain to you why people should be allowed to do something.


Were a man to pull out his penis in front of you and take a leak, would your statement still apply? It's a natural process of the human body, and you can't tell him what to do right? That would be an imposition on your part wouldn't it? Or are you just another woman hiding behind the veil of double standards?



A woman breastfeeding in public is not doing anything to you.

You forcing women not to breastfeed in public is doing something to them.

The fact you even need this explaining is mind blowing.


-------------------------


You couldn't make less sense.

Just because they don't breast feed in public, doesn't mean they can't breast feed period. They can go to designated areas, stay in their car, if at a grocery store they can go to a changing room, or they can use breast pump machines to do all of this before even leaving the home, and put it into bottles. I can't believe that I had to explain that!

No it doesn't hurt me at all. It upsets parents that don't want their kids seeing it. Suggesting that women to find a more reasonable, private place to breast feed (like they've always done)....is not hurting them either. So, again..you left out some information there, or rather part of the story.


Saying they can't breastfeed in public is you controlling them. The onus is on you to give a reason they should not be allowed to do it.

The fact that you find it icky or are unable to control yourself isn't a valid reason


Ok..clearly you're still not reading before responding..so I am simply going to copy and paste my reasons from just 5 posts back...and on this very page. This is getting to be ridiculous at this point. You're not even reading my posts, or you wouldn't keep asking the same questions over and over. I AM reading yours, and you still haven't answered my questions as to why women absolutely NEED to do this in public, whereas all of recent history has determined that doing it in private has no ill effects on them or their babies. Here is the forced double post...please read it this time...THESE ARE MY REASONS!

#1) Their children, and how they want to raise them, is being taken away by those physically forcing their views on others.

#2) I gave evidence (above with an image) that this is indeed a sexual fantasy for many men out there. I like boobs, and I'll admit that, they are a sexual turn on every time me and my wife do (whatever). My wife seems to know this, as she always makes it a point that I see them to get turned on. Lactation and the other I am not fascinated by...but there is a porn industry online where many men are.


3) As a result of this Porn Industry, there may be some really sick and twisted men out there that would rape or harm women who pull their breasts out in public, follow them outside, and sexually assault her, as a result of "her begging for it" from his filter in which he perceived the act. It happens, some men get turned on by women who show their lesser seen body parts, and sexually assault them thinking that the woman asked for it....and NO, I KNOW WHERE YOU WILL GO WITH THIS, AND I AM NOT SUPPORTING THEM OR MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM. I AM MERELY SAYING THAT ITS A REALITY AND IT DOES HAPPEN.

4) I have seen, with my own eyes, the nipples of women re-positioning the baby, or taking it away after a feeding is completed. Chances are I am not the only one in the world, and yes...that is less than even minimal prudishness.


How many things do you Need to do in public?

You OK I we just ban anything you don't absolutely need to do?

None of your reasons are even remotely reasons why it shouldn't be allowed. We don't thankfully don't make rules based on people's sexual peccadiloes.

And again, If you want to stop seeing nipples then stop being creep who stares as women's breasts.




Do you think for a minute, that if I alone stop looking...that the problem is over? There are many things that I would love to do in public, that I don't need to do, that I simply don't do, out of respect for others. It's not a matter of "NEED", its a matter of the respect of others around you. Public sex doesn't NEED to happen, but it's a natural process (that many say is beautiful) that others find offensive, if done in public. Public urination and defecation is another, smoking...I could go on. NO ONE NEEDS to do any of these in public, but it's only those who don't consider the wants of others collectively, that actually do them. A woman doesn't absolutely NEED to pull her breasts out in public, as there are many other options that are less offensive to others. If they demand ONLY the breast feeding in public..as an option...they do not care about the wants or opinions of others..and that's selfishness.
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posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is no problem to be over.

It is entirely in your head, a women breastfeeding has absolutely no impact on you.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There is no problem to be over.

It is entirely in your head, a women breastfeeding has absolutely no impact on you.




As I mentioned before, this is not only in my head. Like I'm the only guy who finds breasts attractive. There is a porn based industry on this, so clearly it's not only MY issue (I don't find lactation and breastfeeding sexy, but many other men find it a fantasy)....and you're right, it doesn't affect me one way or another. I am speaking on behalf of those who DO find it offensive. Women can be stalked or raped if the wrong man sees them doing this in public. That is a very real danger that you all are ignoring. I can't believe that women would rather put their lives, and the lives of their child in danger...just to prove a point. I further can't believe that other women would help them to do this. It wreaks of female privilege, once again, pushing the envelope.



edit on 11-3-2018 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers



Those men who find women's earlobes sexy enough to complete ejaculation are FAR outnumbered by those who would see breasts and act violently on it. I don't think I even need statistics for that obvious logic.

And no one is saying that the act of breast feeding a baby is offensive. Quite the contrary actually. They just don't need to do it in the mall for all to see. Even men are not allowed to show their chest within public buildings any longer...no mater how they justify it to be able to sleep at night.
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posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers



Those men who find women's earlobes sexy enough to complete ejaculation are FAR outnumbered by those who would see breasts and act violently on it. I don't think I even need statistics for that obvious logic.

And no one is saying that the act of breast feeding a baby is offensive. Quite the contrary actually. They just don't need to do it in the mall for all to see.


Not offensive just shouldn't be done in public. Right makes perfect sense..

So what % of men need to not be able to control themselves before we start restricting women's rights?



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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I think everyone has lost sight as to what this is; this isn't a "breast feed in public" issue, this isn't a "sex buys votes" issues, what this "IS" is a child being exploited for the benefit of a political party. Sure maybe the kid needed to be fed, but then why not edit that out? This "IS" a political ad, and therefore everything in it has been strategically placed and acted upon. The breastfeeding is not about feeding her kid, but rather an image that is trying to sell the masses an idea.

Personally if I was running against her, I would put out there that she is a new mother, and as such either her kid suffers or the voters suffer. This ad is an example of exactly that. She couldn't give the voters a strait thought about her stance since she is clearly more concerned about her child, and rightfully so. A vote for her would be lose-lose.

I'm not running against her so don't ask. I'm just saying that this "Breast feeding" is nothing more than a political stunt. As such I hope it back fires on her.



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posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: Guyfriday

Perry much every politican with a family ever has used their children to try and gain votes. This case I believe they were making a point about breastfeeding so arguably more justification for including than most.

Don't get me wrong I think it would be better if children were kept out of political ads all together but we should be consistent about that.



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers



Those men who find women's earlobes sexy enough to complete ejaculation are FAR outnumbered by those who would see breasts and act violently on it. I don't think I even need statistics for that obvious logic.

And no one is saying that the act of breast feeding a baby is offensive. Quite the contrary actually. They just don't need to do it in the mall for all to see.


Not offensive just shouldn't be done in public. Right makes perfect sense..

So what % of men need to not be able to control themselves before we start restricting women's rights?

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That is NOT a right listed in the Bill of Rights, so stop with the hyperbole and drama. Restriction of rights is far different than trying to get more and more, like women are trying to do. Men are getting no more rights. We don't have an affirmative action card like women do. If anyone's rights are in danger...it's men's.
edit on 11-3-2018 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?


Well that is on the liberal action item list...




posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers



Those men who find women's earlobes sexy enough to complete ejaculation are FAR outnumbered by those who would see breasts and act violently on it. I don't think I even need statistics for that obvious logic.

And no one is saying that the act of breast feeding a baby is offensive. Quite the contrary actually. They just don't need to do it in the mall for all to see.


Not offensive just shouldn't be done in public. Right makes perfect sense..

So what % of men need to not be able to control themselves before we start restricting women's rights?

-----------------


That is NOT a right listed in the Bill of Rights, so stop with the hyperbole and drama.


So the only rights are those specifically listed on the bill of rights?



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: ScepticScot
There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?


Well that is on the liberal action item list...




Exactly!



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:22 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: ScepticScot
There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?


Well that is on the liberal action item list...



On a thread where conservatives are complaining about public decency....



posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

There are men who find womens earlobes unbelievably sexy. Maybe we should make women wear full head coverings?

The fact that you find baby's being fed offensive is your problem. Stop trying to make it the mothers


Those men who find women's earlobes sexy enough to complete ejaculation are FAR outnumbered by those who would see breasts and act violently on it. I don't think I even need statistics for that obvious logic.

And no one is saying that the act of breast feeding a baby is offensive. Quite the contrary actually. They just don't need to do it in the mall for all to see.


Not offensive just shouldn't be done in public. Right makes perfect sense..

So what % of men need to not be able to control themselves before we start restricting women's rights?

-----------------


That is NOT a right listed in the Bill of Rights, so stop with the hyperbole and drama.


So the only rights are those specifically listed on the bill of rights?

-----------------

Nope, but it's a good start, as breast feeding in public, is not currently a right of anyone. If women were awarded legal rights to breast feed in public, they would have a right to show their breasts in public....which would not be a right afforded to men. It's either called equality because it's equal...or call it for what it is, a lie.

How about that Affirmative Action that women have, and men do not. I noticed you, didn't mention that. You also deleted it from the previous post when you responded...why would you do that? Because that is a right that women have right now that Men did not get. They are pushing for more and more, at our expense.
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