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Should Melania leave trump, like Hillary should have left bill???

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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I didn't move any goalposts.

I wanted evidence. You haven't provided any. Trump denies it. That's all there is, right now.

ETA: In other words...the 'goalpost' is evidence.
edit on 3/8/2018 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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Meh. The Donald no doubt has some sort of Iron Clad prenup in place. I'm betting she is waiting till he is done with the presidency then she will divorce him. They no doubt have some sort of agreement for her to wait till after I'm sure (some extra $$$$$$ no doubt)

I'm thinking Bill had the same deal with Hillary. I stay, you support my political ambitions......



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Lol...

Yea.. anyone believes lawyers pay 130k of their own money without mentioning it..



I've read this three times and can't make sense of it.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Sure. Why not?

Dump "Donny Moscow".

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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I had an affair with Trump!.
Hopefully one of his lawyers will pay me now.


Whore.

Tramp.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

The other question is the amount. 130K seems cheap no? But then again to be fair, I have ZERO experience in how much hush money needs to paid to keep port stars quiet.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You heard the loudest, most ignorant things from both sides during the election. If that's what you are considering being the average outlook on any issue, you really need to rethink your views on life in general.

In my opinion, she should have left Bill, but that's just opinion. My opinion is also that staying with him made her look like a weak, pathetic woman who was unwilling to place the blame where it belonged and was only in it for possible political gain. I find that abhorrent behavior, woman or not, politician or not.

But in the end, it's a personal decision, and my opinion amounts to a pile of sh*t in the grand scheme of Hillary's (and Melania's) life.

The personal lives of public figures might matter to some, but should be about as far down on the priority list as one can imagine without falling off of the list completely.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

That's entirely up to the couple. Some marriages can survive an infidelity with work and dedication. Oh and genuine love.
This man however is the poster child for #boy.
He has zero respect for women.
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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: visitedbythem

In regards to Hillary being a lesbian and being in a marriage for the sake of power and political influence, totes believe that.

Infact, I'm inclined to believe that happens more often then not.




Ummm...precisely...just look at Obama and Michael...





YouSir



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: FredT
a reply to: MotherMayEye

The other question is the amount. 130K seems cheap no? But then again to be fair, I have ZERO experience in how much hush money needs to paid to keep port stars quiet.


I guess I don't find anything too odd about the amount of money...what I do find odd is that the agreement says that there may be counterparts to it and together they constitute the original.



Having handled my mom's estate, I am pretty sure this means that Trump may have his own copy signed by him and in his possession, and just because Stormy Danials doesn't have his copy, it doesn't mean that the agreement wasn't signed by him.

Drawing from my own experience, there were affidavits that my two sisters and I had to sign agreeing to disbursements of the estate.

We all live in different cities so we each signed our own copy and had them notarized...then the three copies TOGETHER represented the original.

Also, clearly, the notary affixed their signature and seal...so her signature was notarized.

If Trump has his own signed and notarized copy, then Stormy doesn't have a case.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

One thing we can all agree on is that politicians are excellent liars until evidence proves they were lying.

By the way, you moved the goalposts from "the lawyer didn't pay her, a law firm did" to "maybe the lawyer had sex with her" so yes you did move them. A piece of evidence is that the lawyer paid her around the time the allegations were surfacing. That could be considered "circumstantial evidence" in court.
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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:43 PM
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He should release a presidential sex tape so we can adore him like Kim K.

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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye

As of now, Trump denies Stormy Danials' allegations.



I believe its every woman's right to sue a man for unwanted sexual

assault/attention However an 'affair' is a consensual relationship, and

therefor no else's business except that of the legal partner.


However once the 'other woman' has excepted any payment what

so ever
..... what does that make her
she has brought her 'affair'

into the catergory of a job
and as she has probably been very well paid for

her services she would be well advised to take the money and run.


He may not be good marriage/partner material but as an onlooker I cannot

fault how he looks out for his children.





edit on 8-3-2018 by eletheia because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: MotherMayEye

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

One thing we can all agree on is that politicians are excellent liars until evidence proves they were lying.

By the way, you moved the goalposts from "the lawyer didn't pay her, a law firm did" to "maybe the lawyer had sex with her" so yes you did move them. A piece of evidence is that the lawyer paid her around the time the allegations were surfacing. That could be considered "circumstantial evidence" in court.


Trump's lawyer says he paid Stormy with his own money and that Trump denies Stormy's accusations and paying her off. So, there's not much evidentiary value to it.

Honestly, my point really is that we seem to pick and choose who to believe arbitrarily when it comes to sex allegations against presidents. I'd like to be consistent.

I don't care who has consensual sex.

I do care if they abuse their office or violate the law to silence people. So far, I don't see any of that here.

I didn't care that Bill got a BJ, or that Obama got a BJ, or that Trump had sex with a porn star.

I do care that Larry Sinclair was arrested at his press conference outing Obama on a bogus warrant that was issued out of Beau Biden's Delaware AG office, and thrown in jail.

If Stormy is arrested while trying to talk to the media...I promise, I will be properly outraged.




edit on 3/8/2018 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

I'm no legal scholar, but my understanding is that once BOTH parties have signed it has to filed with the court to be valid.

The court should have a copy with both signatures If it was indeed filed with a time stamp on it.

edit on 3/8/18 by FredT because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: MotherMayEye





Ah...so I found this on 'Counterpart Agreements:"



A counterpart clause would typically read something like “This agreement may be executed in any number of counterparts, each of which when executed and delivered shall constitute a duplicate original, but all counterparts together shall constitute a single agreement”.

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"And delivered" does not appear in the Counterpart Clause.

So, I believe I am correct when I say that if Trump has his own signed copy of the agreement...then the agreement is binding. Trump NEVER had to sign a copy and deliver it to Stormy Danials for the contract to be binding.

Also, because there is a Counterpart Clause, I am surprised she and her attorney have even attempted to make this case:


A counterpart clause may however help to prevent a party from claiming that an agreement is not binding because there is no single copy of it that is signed by all the parties or because they did not know that they were entering into a binding contract by signing an agreement not signed by the other parties to it.


Surely, her lawyer knows this.

My gut says this scandal is a convenient distraction....*Bill Clinton style*.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: FredT
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I'm no legal scholar, but my understanding is that once BOTH parties have signed it has to filed with the court to be valid.

The court should have a copy with both signatures If it was indeed filed with a time stamp on it.


It wasn't a court document. It was a private agreement.

ETA: By that, I mean, it would never have to be filed in court. Yes, the stuff for my mom's estate were all court documents, but this is just a private contract.
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posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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Melania may have her own skeletons in her closet. Low morals seems to go hand in hand with being filthy rich. I doubt though that she would break up their family over Trumps indiscretion, if it did happen. This is their personal business, so I don't really care what she does.



posted on Mar, 8 2018 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Up to her. He's on his third marriage, I doubt it would phase him much.



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