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see. From my point of view everything in this statement of yours could only be from projection. Even your claims of doubt only mask your reasons to post the thoughts. It is a vicious cycle without using deep introspection. It is almost like recognizing and not posting would be proof of introspection at times, and posting it without introspection is proof you capitulated and gave up and let the flesh rule your judgements upon others flesh.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: introvert
I couldn’t claim to know if trump is racist.
He has race baited constamtly for damn sure, but I just find it hard to believe many people really still believe in inferior races.. atleast not deep down.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: bulwarkz
BWAHAHAHA
The ridiculousness of quoting the Bible as some proof of something is a topic for another thread lol.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Imho the declaimer at the end is what really make racism the most likely conclusion..
He literally adds “why can’t we have more immigration from norway..” which is literally the whitest place on earth. Lol..,
Sure, there is like a 15% chance he meant it in some other way, but it is absolutely understandable why people would interpret it as racist statement..
But would it be legit racism, or pandering to the racists in his base??
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Yeah thats all fine, but if you read my other posts you will note that I am not claiming that its racist to say that any particular country is a sh!t hole, thats not why I think he is racist.
So I guess in a way I do kind of agree with you that its pretty stupid to call someone racist for saying they dislike a particular country or place. There are lots of cities I hate and I am pretty sure I would hate to be living in Yemen right now, that does not make me racist its just a sad truth that they are not very nice places to be right now.
It is true to claim that in many parts of the world it is racial discrimination covers not just biological characteristics but also nationality and ethnicity.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Racism is about more than just the colour of ones skin, language is fluid and definitions change over time, for me it is just as racist to say "I hate all dutch people" (its the shoes) as it would be to say "I hate black people" because socially and legally that is how racism is generally understood
I'm an equal opportunity hater.
You piss me off
in your little world if the person has a different skin color I'm automatically racist?
Stop muddying the water with your BS...
Its not muddying the water, its just simply that you do not like the fact that modern definitions of racism make you uncomfortable.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its not muddying the water, its just simply that you do not like the fact that modern definitions of racism make you uncomfortable.
I don't think you like the fact that "modern definitions of racism" are absurd, based on the simple fact that a nation is not a race, nor an ethnic group, and are more often than not multi-racial and multi-ethnic.
Well to you they are absurd
And thats fine i never said you had to like it only that, thats how it is now defined by a large part of the world.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Well to you they are absurd
And thats fine i never said you had to like it only that, thats how it is now defined by a large part of the world.
Except in biology, genetics, and every other science known to man.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: bulwarkz
BWAHAHAHA
The ridiculousness of quoting the Bible as some proof of something is a topic for another thread lol.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its not muddying the water, its just simply that you do not like the fact that modern definitions of racism make you uncomfortable.
I don't think you like the fact that "modern definitions of racism" are absurd, based on the simple fact that a nation is not a race, nor an ethnic group, and are more often than not multi-racial and multi-ethnic.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Well to you they are absurd
And thats fine i never said you had to like it only that, thats how it is now defined by a large part of the world.
Except in biology, genetics, and every other science known to man.
Dude like I said, you don't have to accept it or like it but the fact remains, the UN says that race includes nationality so when Trump mage a derogatory comment towards a group of people based on their nationality it could be argued by many its racist.
Sure biological race in the sense of skin pigmentation is still a factor but there is no real denying that as I pointed out in my first comment that race is much more than just biology, its about nationality, ethnicity and yes biological race. I don't really want to repeat myself as I have posted my argument for that in said post. What I will say is that race today is seen as much more of a social construct than it is a biological one, if you just google "race as a social construct" you will find lots of information on this.
If you wish to disagree with me then feel free to do so.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
You are sure a highly compartmentalized and confused bunch...it REALLY IS the new religion...
Ugh.
those making the accusations are racists themselves
making definitions according to their whims and trashing nationalism.
You are sure a highly compartmentalized and confused bunch...it REALLY IS the new religion...