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posted on Mar, 10 2018 @ 03:34 PM
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Japan is for Japanese. Russia is for Russians. United States is for Americans. Mexico is for Mexicans. Canada is for Canadians. Iceland is for Icelanders. New Zealand is for New Zealanders. Pretty simple to understand, if you ask me. It is great we're working to make America great again, but to do that we need to first make America America again.


...and yet the Western railroads were built by thousands of Chinese and the wealth of the Founding Fathers was built on the importation of African slaves. Did those Chinese return to China and did the slaves go back to Africa? No they didn't. They stayed on and have 150 to 300 years of American heritage and birthright behind them.

I get the anxiety about preserving ways of life and protecting the culture we have grown up in. I feel it too. It's still unrealistic to ignore the importance of historical migrations (forced or otherwise) and thereby devalue the significant role of economics. America and the UK are global economies because we've taken advantage of migrant labour and slavery not in spite of it.




posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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To say that migrant or slave labor is the driving factor in Western civilization's success is simply inaccurate. Clearly the vast majority of Western civilization was built by the West, just as the vast majority of Eastern civilization was built by the East. To say no contribution was made by migrant labor is equally untrue, but I think it is pretty obvious by looking back at our noteworthy inventors and creators throughout US history. Compared to contributions to the West by the West, external influences are likely minimal at best (with a couple noteworthy exceptions)

It doesn't necessarily make one better than the other, but many Eastern civilizations still employ some form of failed or repressive government (socialist/communist/etc). China may be a partial exception here, since they've struck a balance between BS communism and intelligent capitalism, but no doubt the remnants of authoritarianism/communism are still holding their burgeoning economy back. This was supposed to be China's century after all. Sadly many soon-to-be-failed Western states (like Australia, UK, EU, etc) also practice these failed forms of governance, or dip their toes (in the case of UK/AU). Populist Democracy (aka socialism) doesn't work.


No they didn't. They stayed on and have 150 to 300 years of American heritage and birthright behind them.


Sure, and I am sure they are Americans. They likely live the American culture, way of life and work to advance American goals. These folks are part of "the West" (broadly) and United States. Those folks are Americans, "The West." They are excluded by nature from the focus of my text.

This post is entirely against having multiple cultures (not ethnic groups) within one nation, and how it is a recipe for partisan gridlock (best case) or apartheid dystopia. My only point is that those who wish to live in America must do so with the intent of Americanizing, not twisting or bending this country according to their will.

I'll again reference the Muslims who made a federal case of French schools failing to provide their children with free Muslim food (ie: pack their lunch yourself, or don't...who cares). But expecting an entire culture/society to change to their external views/culture is unacceptable IMO. When you move to a new country, the onus is on you to fit in and assimilate. It isn't up to that country to make you feel super fuzzy and welcome. IMO, you're welcome when you become part of the culture. Until then, terms like "outsider" "alien" etc are logically descriptive and true. Those labels are reinforced by these types of misbehavior we witness. In this above example, there was nothing stopping the Muslim family from simply purchasing the food on their own dime (not at tax payer expense) while they were already being put up for free in a host country.

Ungrateful, if you ask me. All the more reason to close to the door to refugees who haven't demonstrated a clear desire and ability to assimilate.


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posted on Mar, 11 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: DeanVenture


I'd like you to show me where I stated this. I didn't, but I do say this.

If by "Non-American" you mean a person not part of our culture (not ethnicity, but "Culture".. think about it)? Then yes: leave. Last I checked, Native Americans have their own sovereign nations correct? Designed for those who wish to live that CULTURE. Additionally, US citizens (as a CULTURE) also have our own sovereign nation: this country!

Any attempts to "De-Americanize" this country are misguided and frankly highly discriminatory against the American culture and this country as a sovereign nation. It is no different than attempting to "De-French" France, "De-Spanish" Spain or "De-Korean" Korea.

We are a nation of Americans. Including people of any ethnicity (such as native Americans vs. European descent). Americanism, for example, is predicated on great love and reverence for freedom, liberty, individual rights and unwavering defense of our Constitution. Someone who cannot say all of the above are true, IMO, has no business being here because they aren't "American" in the sense they aren't part of this culture. And attempting to supplant or otherwise subvert legitimate American culture in any way isn't "enrichment" its invasion.
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