The old testament is finished and Homosexuality is OK in The New Law (Christ)

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Akragon
He spoke of marriage (the heterosexual thing) as something very important in God's eyes, and the Old Testament shows it to be important as a way of producing life.
That has implications about anything that may undermine heterosexual marriage and the production of children, so I said the point needed to be taken into consideration.
Marriage and the God of Life

And while i agree... marriage is not how children are produced these days... Or ever for that matter

Twas and always has been a religious tradition and has nothing at all to do with procreation

Children outside of marriage were always shunned in religious circles

Yet marriage isn't required in Love... which IS what Jesus taught

again... He had NO opinion on the subject

a reply to: lightofgratitude

When is the last time someone checked the bible to see if something was permissible?

I don’t think anyone cares what you think the bible says.

I might have some news for you, the New Testament is finished as well.

originally posted by: Akragon
Twas and always has been a religious tradition and has nothing at all to do with procreation

Is this sentence referring to marriage? If so, I refer you to the old Anglican marriage service, on the subject of the causes for which marriage is ordained
"First, It was ordained for the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord..."

Yet marriage isn't required in Love... which IS what Jesus taught

Be careful not to exploit the ambiguity of the English word "Love".
There are two different words in the Greek. What Jesus taught was AGAPE. The fact that Jesus taught AGAPE can't be used to justify all the possible varieties of EROS.

a reply to: DISRAELI

Is this sentence referring to marriage? If so, I refer you to the old Anglican marriage service, on the subject of the causes for which marriage is ordained
"First, It was ordained for the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord..."

Right... religious tradition

which may be the point of said tradition, but it does not create children

We know what creates children, and marriage isn't necessary in the least

Be careful not to exploit the ambiguity of the English word "Love".
There are two different words in the Greek. What Jesus taught was AGAPE. The fact that Jesus taught AGAPE can't be used to justify all the possible varieties of EROS.

Unconditional love does not require marriage... or even a love between two that are sexually active

religious bias tends to taint the issue

originally posted by: Akragon
Right... religious tradition

I thought it would be appropriate to bring religious tradition into a thread discussing what religious tradition says.

originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: Akragon
Right... religious tradition

I thought it would be appropriate to bring religious tradition into a thread discussing what religious tradition says.

Seems to be more about scripture and the OP's opinion of it... as opposed to tradition...

From what i can see... the OP is far from tradition

I think it's rather sick that you're trying to equate sexual perversions to love.
SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS NOT LOVE!

a reply to: Akragon

What religious traditions from the old testament are still practiced today?

a reply to: Woodcarver

most... IF not all of them

excluding those that are illegal... which also depends on where one lives

a reply to: Akragon

Name a few?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into Jewish Ceremonies and traditions...

depending on the sect... they keep very close to OT traditions

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into Jewish Ceremonies and traditions...

depending on the sect... they keep very close to OT traditions

Do Jews follow the Old Testament?

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into Jewish Ceremonies and traditions...

depending on the sect... they keep very close to OT traditions

Do Jews follow the Old Testament?

They follow Torah... Mostly

Though rabbinical tradition seems to be a major part in their belief system as well

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into Jewish Ceremonies and traditions...

depending on the sect... they keep very close to OT traditions

Do Jews follow the Old Testament?

They follow Torah... Mostly

Though rabbinical tradition seems to be a major part in their belief system as well

Is the Torah the Old Testament?

a reply to: Woodcarver

The 5 books of Moses

So... yeah

a reply to: trollz

Are you saying being gay and having mixed race marriages are perversions?.
Erm nope.

a reply to: trollz

Are you saying being gay and having mixed race marriages are perversions?.
Erm nope.

a reply to: Akragon

So I can bring the old testament into a Jewish synagogue and teach those people from that book and they won’t have a problem with it?

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Akragon

So I can bring the old testament into a Jewish synagogue and teach those people from that book and they won’t have a problem with it?

actually no they wouldn't...

Bring Any Christian material into a Jewish setting and you'll get obliterated... happily

a reply to: Akragon

But you just said they were the same.