If Trump invaded/ liberated North Korea, he would be loved

originally posted by: Athetos
Naturally but look at every other recently liberated country. Resistance to this very day.
Just saying.

a reply to: SaturnFX

Cant point to the middle east. I was (and remain) extremely anti-war for any wars ever in the middle east...because they are a vastly different culture that is shared by both prince and pauper. The only thing they hate more than each other are the dirty infidels.

East asia has no such fanaticism en masse

originally posted by: TimHeller
but for us and our allies protection but not for strong arm tactics!

Our solid Ally and our oath to protect is Japan

And NK is sending missiles over their airspace monthly as a direct threat.

So by your own measure, we must do something...our ally is being threatened with nuclear annihilation.

originally posted by: Trueman
Who in this thread had been in NK. We only have assumptions and speculation.

Those dudes have.

assumptions and speculations...based on countless testimonies.

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: SaturnFX




Have you not been watching the news? More people are being found to be criminal. trump is in a downward spiral...BTW its not fake news, its The FBI saying this. Just because CNN or whatever news outlet reports it, does NOT make it fake news....
Litterally Sam Nunberg yesterday said trump was probably involved with the Russians. How damn much more do you people need to see trump is a crook? Guess when he is in an orange jumpsuite, then you people will get it....Oh no, wait, you can pay for his lawyers......Then claim FAKE ARREST.

What the hell are you talking about?
1) how does that in any way, shape, or form relate to the topic at hand?
2) why on earth would you think I am some sort of Trump supporter?

originally posted by: Subrosabelow
One of the first things that are likely to happen if we did invade is that those poor people who have nothing will be forced into defending NK and its tubby leader. They will die in huge numbers forced to fight for the very thing oppressing them.

There will also be a great deal of fear of the unknown. All many of them know is what they have now. They're told over and over that the US is evil and bad and the outside world must be kept out for their own good. I honestly can't see them holding out much hope that 'liberation' by the US/Trump will lead to anything good. What metric do they have to measure what is better? They're isolated and clueless. Most are uneducated. For all they know, they'll just end up in the same situation, just under a new tyrant.

Attacking NK is guaranteed to provoke China. China taking action will lead to a war on two fronts. That has the potential to escalate quickly to a full out world war. It's really not what we need, in my opinion.

Naa bro, with the citizens army, you bomb them with propaganda and cheeseburgers, telling them how to safely surrender and their human rights. You have a gun in one hand and a delicious meal in the other and ask a starving warrior which one he wants shoved in his mouth...the odds are he is gonna choose the good option.
Yeah, there will be plenty to fight...hard to fight bombs coming down from 500 miles away though and hard to attack the convoy that came into your hometown loaded down with food, medicine, electricity, water, etc.

If the stuff we are hearing is true, the war would rapidly go from outside war to civil war, to tyrannical overthrowing and unification in a few months tops....if China stayed out of it anyhow.

And thats the only giant wrench in this idea...China...damn China.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: gortex

An unprovoked attack wouldn't make Trump loved.

A US President is not elected to be "loved" . They are elected to do a job.
Protect the US and it's people

And Allies

a reply to: SaturnFX

Which 'allies' ?
Would these be the same allies that Trump wants to start a trade war with ?!

The US would be all on it's lonesome
It's a pie in the sky, stupid idea ...

Yet more idiocy from the Church of Trump tm

a reply to: Subrosabelow

Thanks for common sense.

We don't need to invade anyone! The NK are starving, dying but only have been fed Fat Boy's propaganda-we're their enemy and they will die for Fat Boy.

If our Navy Seals etc could stealthily take out the regime leaders, it might, I mean might, help free the suffering in NK. But no invasion.

When, and I do mean WHEN, China and/or Russia finally rid themselves of this bug in their ear-many will suffer on both ends as will SK because they will immediately be assimilated together again-and live that nice Russian-Chinese regime lifestyle.

We are not the world police. We don't need to sacrifice any more of our young men for TPTB.

originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Subrosabelow





We are not the world police. We don't need to sacrifice any more of our young men for TPTB.

Since when have we ever cared about our young men since ww2?

Now it's all about the money and how much of it corps war profiteers, private contractors, can rake in.

Yes. Civilization has a moral obligation to liberate the people of North Korea.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

By which standard would you define 'Civilization' ?
'Western' 'Civilization''?

a reply to: olaru12

Hence, we agree. We know that the government will sacrifice our young men so screw them. No invasion-no way.

originally posted by: Cassi3l
a reply to: SaturnFX

Which 'allies' ?
Would these be the same allies that Trump wants to start a trade war with ?!

The US would be all on it's lonesome
It's a pie in the sky, stupid idea ...

Yet more idiocy from the Church of Trump tm

China is not our ally
Japan is
Know your geography.

Yet more idiocy from the Church of Stalin

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: SaturnFX




Have you not been watching the news? More people are being found to be criminal. trump is in a downward spiral...BTW its not fake news, its The FBI saying this. Just because CNN or whatever news outlet reports it, does NOT make it fake news....
Litterally Sam Nunberg yesterday said trump was probably involved with the Russians. How damn much more do you people need to see trump is a crook? Guess when he is in an orange jumpsuite, then you people will get it....Oh no, wait, you can pay for his lawyers......Then claim FAKE ARREST.

I'd ask for proof of that claim, but I suspect that you just don't fully grasp the meaning of "literally".

a reply to: SaturnFX

Actually a Russian Filmmaker once stated that many North Koreans are potential suicide bombers

It's just horrible to imagine what they would do in a war. Every North Korean will be a suicide bomber with a bomb belt. There is not a person there who wouldn't be ready to die for the system that has enslaved them. They have nothing apart from this, it's the only meaning of their existence.

www.bloomberg.com...

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: SaturnFX

Actually a Russian Filmmaker once stated that many North Koreans are potential suicide bombers

It's just horrible to imagine what they would do in a war. Every North Korean will be a suicide bomber with a bomb belt. There is not a person there who wouldn't be ready to die for the system that has enslaved them. They have nothing apart from this, it's the only meaning of their existence.

www.bloomberg.com...

Yes, so long as Kim and Co are in charge, Take out that fat pos and drag him through the streets while giving away food and saying the north and south are united once again and you will find the system collapse into itself in a microsecond.

They fear Americans because they have been indoctrinated heavily to believe americans are literal spawns of satan, but they are told the south koreans are their sons and daughters...so the message of unification while seeing their godking dead would eliminate that risk.

The article is saying don't negotiate with them, nor think that a typical war will be somehow easy, because a typical war you don't immediately attack the leaders..you take land and resources until the leader surrenders. Gotta go for the heads, then lead in a invasion force of south koreans spreading liberty with one hand, and bullets for the rest of the decimated old guard with the other..backed by Americans, but not lead by.

It won't happen though. Again, China is issue here as they won't allow for NK to disappear and unite with the south sadly...but its nice to dream, and should Kimmy launch something that actually hits one of our allies..well, then gloves are off

a reply to: SaturnFX

There's another thing you should know, according to ATS member Slider, there are rumors that the TPTB is secretly helping North Korea.

Now I know this may sound crazy but this isn't the first time the US done this. Look at Prescott Bush who supported the Nazis.

A lot of people questioned how does North Korea survived and obtain nuclear weapons despite the sanctions. Perhaps an outside force is helping them.

Propping up North Korea benefits the Military Industrial Complex by having an external enemy.

Besides North Korea has a Nazi like ideology where they believed Koreans are the master race though in their terms its "the Cleanest Race"

By having a Nazi like enemy, the MIC can justify its militarist ways and say its in the name of "spreading democracy" just like what they did during WW2 against Adolf Hitler.

The only way to liberate NK is to some how get China involved militarily together and help, this of course will have to be giving up Taiwan also to allow reunification of one China. If Taiwan wasn't there it would have been a lot easier when US somehow got China as an alliance and stop playing the Europeans game of trying to takeover the world since the Colonial Era.

If Trump invaded/ liberated North Korea, he would be loved


If Trump got NK to dismantle it's Nukes, with out killing all of SK and half of Japan, I still wouldn't love him but I'd give him his props.

Funny comparisons.

But lets remember.
Trump was elected.
If you don't like him in two years you vote him out.

Not so much the case in North Korea.