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What caliber weapon killed Seth Rich?

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posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 06:37 AM
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www.zerohedge.com...


Another unexplained fact muddying the Rich case is that of a stolen 40 caliber Glock 22 handguns stoken from an FBI agent's car the same day Rich was murdered. D.C. Metro police said that the theft occurred between 5 and 7 a.m., while the FBI said two weeks later that the theft had occurred between Midnight and 2 a.m. - fueling speculation that the FBI gun was used in Rich's murder.


This article doesn't offer any bombshells, it only re-iterates more of the facts. But I don't know that I have heard what caliber weapon was used in his murder. It may be completely unrelated, but then again, it may not be.

I just didn't think the caliber of weapon used, would be something that needed to be kept secret, unless it fit this particular narrative.
And I apologize to the Family of Seth Rich, if they read this and it upsets them. I am only asking questions.




posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 08:03 AM
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Interesting question. Of course if they recovered a bullet it could be answered. Then again they would have the barrel striations which would identify it as the FBI’s gun. Since all of them are on record for crime scene recreation purposes in case of a shootout.

If it is the case, they might keep it quiet for investigation purposes. Pin the murder whomever is found with the gun sort of thing. But criminals tend to use communial guns from a gun bank to make things murky for that reason. Hotter guns traded off to other areas to further confuse the situation, as well as barrel swapping.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
Interesting question. Of course if they recovered a bullet it could be answered. Then again they would have the barrel striations which would identify it as the FBI’s gun. Since all of them are on record for crime scene recreation purposes in case of a shootout.

If it is the case, they might keep it quiet for investigation purposes. Pin the murder whomever is found with the gun sort of thing. But criminals tend to use communial guns from a gun bank to make things murky for that reason. Hotter guns traded off to other areas to further confuse the situation, as well as barrel swapping.
Communal guns from a gun bank? Did you get that idea from a cartoon? Like there is a league of criminals and a crate of guns laying around with a bunch of murders attibuted to them? Every good criminal knows to destroy the weapon after you use it for assassinations.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 08:09 AM
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I just haven't heard a good argument for why the caliber is kept under wraps. It's something that should be able to get a close guess if no lead was recovered, but with the location known, and the body available for the ME, it seems not finding one of the two bullets would be a harder task than finding it. (pure speculation on my part)



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver
Every good criminal knows to destroy the weapon after you use it for assassinations.


Is that in the book "how to get away with murder?"



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Because the ammunition is most likely gov. issue, just like the glock. - Which oddly enough, this murder coincides with a lot of gov employees forgetting their guns in public bathrooms/losing them in odd places at the time.
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posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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I seem to remember a news story shortly after the hit that referred to the caliber used as a .38, but I doubt that I could find that story today.
If you want to see a really over the top hit on conspiracy theories connected with Seth Rich, take a look at wikipedia....Seth Rich.
Look at the section on conspiracy down the page.
It looks like the DNC wrote it themselves.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: network dude
www.zerohedge.com...


Another unexplained fact muddying the Rich case is that of a stolen 40 caliber Glock 22 handguns stoken from an FBI agent's car the same day Rich was murdered. D.C. Metro police said that the theft occurred between 5 and 7 a.m., while the FBI said two weeks later that the theft had occurred between Midnight and 2 a.m. - fueling speculation that the FBI gun was used in Rich's murder.


This article doesn't offer any bombshells, it only re-iterates more of the facts. But I don't know that I have heard what caliber weapon was used in his murder. It may be completely unrelated, but then again, it may not be.

I just didn't think the caliber of weapon used, would be something that needed to be kept secret, unless it fit this particular narrative.
And I apologize to the Family of Seth Rich, if they read this and it upsets them. I am only asking questions.


Not sure, but does fit the narrative as you mentioned. My daily carry is a Glock 45 caliber..

Personally? Side by side, shot for shot, weight, accuracy etc.. I see little physical difference between 40 and 45 cals. except velocity(fps).

For the record? I think he was "taken out"...we may never know...



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 11:58 AM
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It can be difficult to ascertain the caliber of bullet after it hits something. Even if you recover the entire undamaged bullet, you only know how big it is and not necessarily what specific round it was. For example, 9mm and .380 ACP shoot the same size projectile, 9mm has a slightly longer case and can have heavier bullets though there is a lot of overlap between the two.

When the bullet is smashed to hell or fragmented from hitting bone, as tends to be the case, or opened up in the case of hollow points, it's substantially more difficult to determine the specific round. If the base of the bullet is intact they could determine it was, say, a .30 caliber. That narrows it down, but not enough to be definitive. 9mm, .380 ACP, .38 Special, .357 Mag, .357 Sig, .38 Super, etc. are all roughly .30 caliber handgun rounds.

Now, if they found shell casings and are keeping that under wraps for some reason, that is indeed fishy.
edit on 4-3-2018 by Roxxo because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into gang weapons...cartoons, pfft.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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Umm, the 38, 38 special and the 357 bullet dia is .357. 9 mm and 357 sig is .355 and the 30 cal rifles are .308 dia. Quite a diff. The 357 has much more powder behind it than the others you mentioned in handgun loads



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into gang weapons...cartoons, pfft.


Two MS-13 gang members, hired by Hillary DNC.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Woodcarver
Every good criminal knows to destroy the weapon after you use it for assassinations.


Is that in the book "how to get away with murder?"
Yes. It’s #37. Look it up



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Roxxo
It can be difficult to ascertain the caliber of bullet after it hits something. Even if you recover the entire undamaged bullet, you only know how big it is and not necessarily what specific round it was. For example, 9mm and .380 ACP shoot the same size projectile, 9mm has a slightly longer case and can have heavier bullets though there is a lot of overlap between the two.

When the bullet is smashed to hell or fragmented from hitting bone, as tends to be the case, or opened up in the case of hollow points, it's substantially more difficult to determine the specific round. If the base of the bullet is intact they could determine it was, say, a .30 caliber. That narrows it down, but not enough to be definitive. 9mm, .380 ACP, .38 Special, .357 Mag, .357 Sig, .38 Super, etc. are all roughly .30 caliber handgun rounds.

Now, if they found shell casings and are keeping that under wraps for some reason, that is indeed fishy.

That would be contingent upon the medical examiner having found bullet(s) at all... or admitting to it if they did. It is likely that the bullets did pass completely through Seth's body as the shots were to the abdomen, where there are fewer bones to hit.
No empty cartridges were found, according to the official story, which would indicate that a revolver was used. Using a semiauto pistol in a hit is generally a bad idea as the empties may go somewhere that makes them difficult to find in a hurry. They would have forensic evidence such as marks made by the firearm, fingerprints or possibly DNA.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: network dude

I like seeing the Rich case beimg discussed publicly again. It tells me that justice may still be had.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Not to mention revolvers dont jam. Trusty and reliable (for only 6 shots).



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Thanks for bringing this up. It is overlooked on purpose.

I wonder if the FBI agent had contacts within MS 13.

Whoever killed Seth Rich is probably dead now. His family in LA or in San Salvador might know something.

They probably still have the gun.


edit on 3 4 2018 by tadaman because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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Although I don't tend to think of this murder as a botched robbery, one thing that doesn't fit if this was a professional hit....
Seth Rich was conscious when the police arrived. A professional would have dropped a round into his skull.

Maybe it was MS 13 and they just aren't that good.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

We can only hope.



posted on Mar, 4 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Woodcarver

Look into gang weapons...cartoons, pfft.


Two MS-13 gang members, hired by Hillary DNC.


At least the OP has the decency to be respectful to the family.

None of that from you I see.




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