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Depth Of Russian Politician's Cultivation Of NRA Ties Revealed

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posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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A prominent Kremlin-linked Russian politician has methodically cultivated ties with leaders of the National Rifle Association and documented efforts in real time over six years to leverage those connections and gain deeper access into American politics


Depth Of Russian Politician's Cultivation Of NRA Ties Revealed

The source is NPR so many will immediately file this in the fake news bin. But, it seems to me the "nothing burger" keeps getting more sauce on it. This is mostly old news but the sources is new and seems to add some weight.

To summarize NPR translated Twitter messages from Alexander Torshin where apparently he talked about his connection to the NRA. And, we should all remember the story about how Russian money was funneled through that organization.



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posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: villagesmithie

Yeah, uh, no.

Link NRA to Russians.

Make NRA a terrorist group.

Make NRA a hate group.


Make siding with the 2nd Amendment an ugly thing.

Make siding with the Bill of Rights an ugly thing.

Make siding with the Constitution an ugly thing.

No.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

*gasp*!

Looks like the 2nd Amendment has always been a communist plot ...

No.

Just ... NO.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Remember that time when the Russian ambassador sat with all the Democrats?

Clearly, the Democrat party is also a Russian plot ...



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Looks like the 2nd Amendment has always been a communist plot ...


NRA =/= 2nd amendment



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:19 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy

Remember that time when the Russian ambassador sat with all the Democrats?

Clearly, the Democrat party is also a Russian plot ...

Trump's fault.

Probably in the next FISA warrant.


Seriously, it's an attempt to control/change the narrative and make the 2nd Amendment something akin to Russian-zombie-pedophilia-clown-spider-broccoli.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: ketsuko
Looks like the 2nd Amendment has always been a communist plot ...


NRA =/= 2nd amendment


Not everything = Russian plot, either.

I ate borscht ..! Clearly, it was a Russian plot.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I am learning something though.

We were thinking everything was Trump's fault, but it's not. It's the Russians.

It wasn't Gunther's fault; it was the Russians.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:25 PM
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perky russian plot to bring ddown america... been in the works for decades



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: ketsuko
Looks like the 2nd Amendment has always been a communist plot ...


NRA =/= 2nd amendment


I have to know.

Are you ready to nuke Russia and round up all the Russian collaborators in this country yet?



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy

I am learning something though.

We were thinking everything was Trump's fault, but it's not. It's the Russians.

It wasn't Gunther's fault; it was the Russians.


Gunther was from (formerly) East Germany.

It all makes sense now. . . . .



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:29 PM
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The left is going to have a terrible time with all this.

Not only are they going to have put together a sadly diminished military to go around rounding up the Russian infiltrators, but they also have the Nazi-fasco/racists to round up too. They're going to have to figure out how to disarm and incarcerate entire states while they're at it -- people who aren't going to just tamely accept the leftsplaining and go quietly.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
I have to know.

Are you ready to nuke Russia and round up all the Russian collaborators in this country yet?


no, are you?

seems to be a lot of strawmen going around lately. some of you are keeping the farmers in business, no doubt.
edit on 2-3-2018 by fiverx313 because: how do quotes work even



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: fiverx313

originally posted by: ketsuko
I have to know.

Are you ready to nuke Russia and round up all the Russian collaborators in this country yet?


no, are you?

seems to be a lot of strawmen going around lately. some of you are keeping the farmers in business, no doubt.


Hey! I'm not the one who put up a thread that begs to made a parody. Perhaps you should discuss this with the OP.



We all see what we want to see. Coffey looks and he sees Russians. He sees hate and fear. You have to look with better eyes than that.
-- The Abyss

But, hey, raise your hand if you think that was a Russian water tentacle.

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posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Hey! I'm not the one who put up a thread that begs to made a parody. Perhaps you should discuss this with the OP.


did you read the article?

are you arguing that it's not factual?

or do you just object to people discussing facts that don't fit your favorite narrative?



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

If I want to sell toothpaste, I find 4 dentists and get 3 to say they like my toothpaste. Then I can say 3 out of 4 dentists recommend it. Are you saying that's not factual?

There are facts and there are interpretations of facts. It's called spin.
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posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:39 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: fiverx313

If I want to sell toothpaste, I find 4 dentists and get 3 to say they like my toothpaste. Then I can say 3 out of 4 dentists recommend it. Are you saying that's not factual?

There are facts and there are interpretations of facts. It's called spin.


as long as everything you don't like can be spin, and everything you do like can be made up out of whole cloth -- or straw -- then i guess you can keep on keepin on.




posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

So basically, you are saying that merely speaking to a Russian, having dealings with a Russian is suspicious if you hold political views you don't agree with?

McCaskill lied about meeting with a Russian, but she gets off OK because she's on "your" side?



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: fiverx313

There's nothing there. A Russian guy conducted business. That Russian guy turns out to potentially be shady because every Russian is under scrutiny these days. There is no evidence that he did anything with the NRA beyond conduct business. As of yet, that is all speculation on NPR's part.
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