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NRA launches effort to defeat socialism

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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.




posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 05:54 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.

The key words being amendments.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:38 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.


Perfect. So then you understand that our constitution protects individual rights.



The key words being amendments.


Irrelevant.

Not being American...have you read the volumes of material that discusses the founding of our nation? The people who wrote the constitution left quite a bit of material behind that makes it pretty clear that what im saying here is true.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 07:12 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.


Perfect. So then you understand that our constitution protects individual rights.



The key words being amendments.


Irrelevant.

Not being American...have you read the volumes of material that discusses the founding of our nation? The people who wrote the constitution left quite a bit of material behind that makes it pretty clear that what im saying here is true.



The thing it makes most clear is that the founding fathers had quite a lot of different views about how the constitution should be formed.

We seemed to have moved quite a bit off topic from what was intended as a throw away remark.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.


Perfect. So then you understand that our constitution protects individual rights.



The key words being amendments.


Irrelevant.

Not being American...have you read the volumes of material that discusses the founding of our nation? The people who wrote the constitution left quite a bit of material behind that makes it pretty clear that what im saying here is true.



The thing it makes most clear is that the founding fathers had quite a lot of different views about how the constitution should be formed.

We seemed to have moved quite a bit off topic from what was intended as a throw away remark.
they had some different views but every one was willing to sacrifice their lives for liberty. In fact a number of the signers of the Declaration actually did. My own ancestor James Turley fought in the Revolution about age 14. Yes imagine him
Wielding one of those "assault" muskets of war at 14 to secure our Liberty. They didn't do it to be enslaved by an ever tyrannical State and they didn't do it for sone crazy Obamacare garbage and they didn't do it for the Federal Reserve to print money and enslave us by Cabal bankers.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.


Perfect. So then you understand that our constitution protects individual rights.



The key words being amendments.


Irrelevant.

Not being American...have you read the volumes of material that discusses the founding of our nation? The people who wrote the constitution left quite a bit of material behind that makes it pretty clear that what im saying here is true.



The thing it makes most clear is that the founding fathers had quite a lot of different views about how the constitution should be formed.

We seemed to have moved quite a bit off topic from what was intended as a throw away remark.
they had some different views but every one was willing to sacrifice their lives for liberty. In fact a number of the signers of the Declaration actually did. My own ancestor James Turley fought in the Revolution about age 14. Yes imagine him
Wielding one of those "assault" muskets of war at 14 to secure our Liberty. They didn't do it to be enslaved by an ever tyrannical State and they didn't do it for sone crazy Obamacare garbage and they didn't do it for the Federal Reserve to print money and enslave us by Cabal bankers.


Ok. Your intimate knowledge of how the founding fathers would think in 2017 is noted.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

home.ubalt.edu...


During the ratification process, several state legislatures expressed concern over the lack of protection of individual liberties. In response, the first Congress passed twelve amendments to the Constitution, ten of these which were ratified by the states and became known collectively as the Bill of Rights.


The bill of rights is what you are looking for.


Aware of the bill of rights.


Perfect. So then you understand that our constitution protects individual rights.



The key words being amendments.


Irrelevant.

Not being American...have you read the volumes of material that discusses the founding of our nation? The people who wrote the constitution left quite a bit of material behind that makes it pretty clear that what im saying here is true.



The thing it makes most clear is that the founding fathers had quite a lot of different views about how the constitution should be formed.

We seemed to have moved quite a bit off topic from what was intended as a throw away remark.
they had some different views but every one was willing to sacrifice their lives for liberty. In fact a number of the signers of the Declaration actually did. My own ancestor James Turley fought in the Revolution about age 14. Yes imagine him
Wielding one of those "assault" muskets of war at 14 to secure our Liberty. They didn't do it to be enslaved by an ever tyrannical State and they didn't do it for sone crazy Obamacare garbage and they didn't do it for the Federal Reserve to print money and enslave us by Cabal bankers.


Ok. Your intimate knowledge of how the founding fathers would think in 2017 is noted.
Like Insaud they were well read and studied the writings of John Locke and Adam Smith. The Hidden Hand being that mechanism of laissez faire which says whatever we do for ourselves will bring benefit to the community. Socialism is an inversion of that in that people exist for the State and must give up individual liberty for the common good. We all know what the Foubdwrs intended but the socialist operatives in government and NGOs want their Socialist State. Communism and socialism is a cancer and is the death of the soul, I would mention also that we have a representative Republic not a democracy though we have democratic elements. When asked what form of govt we have, founder Ben Franklin replied " a Republic if you can KEEP it"

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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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I'm sure people like Pelosi and Schumer know the intent of our Founders but they seek to undermine our Constitution since they cannot do away with it but they do what they will regardless and their goal is a powerful One World socialist super state
Here's something referring to laissez faire capitalism and how the centralized state has been replacing it.
And how books.google.com... nlaMTFWNJQmlDern6cSc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj3vPHthcnZAhVX1WMKHRqCCLUQ6AEwBHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=how%20socialism%20works%20with%20the%20banking%20carte ls&f=false
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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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This was posted in another thread but it should have been posted here, I also commented about what Eisenhower said....



In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist.





posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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In this article Lapierre mentions that the second Amendment protects every mans right to bear arms and that the socialists in government want to seize power and that if they do America will be changed forever and we will be less free.www.vox.com...
I had a campaign person come by my house around 2000 and tell me that the Democrats wanted to disarm the American public and that tonthat end tgeybwere making sure that schools are eliminating the knowledge of our American Revolution abd why the war was fought. Seems that is true.
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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:16 PM
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It's a failed idea. How can the workers own something they they did not produced. They are rewarded by payment in an agreement for their work, but it is immoral to steal another's persons business when they took all the risk. It's an ideology of thievery and that's why it always 100% fails.
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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:19 PM
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How can the theft of the fruits you've earned (with hard labour) not pose an infringement of your rights?


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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:20 PM
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this is why i don't support the NRA but i do support the 2nd amendment.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

easy, its called taxes.



posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: enlightenedservant

It's a failed idea. How can the workers own something they they did not produced. They are rewarded by payment in an agreement for their work, but it is immoral to steal another's persons business when they took all the risk. It's an ideology of thievery and that's why it always 100% fails.


So we're supposed to ignore self employed entrepreneurs, who are literally workers that own the means of production for their businesses? And what about family owned businesses where the family members are also the workers? Co-opts can also be business organizations/associations that are owned by their workers. And the whole point in programs that allow workers to buy stocks in the companies they work for is to allow the workers to gain part ownership of the "means of production".

In other words, I think your post is absolutely wrong. And those are just some examples right here in the good ole USA that refute your post. Anything else?


ETA: Also, it's funny that you asked "How can the workers own something they they did not produced" when opposing socialism. Investors in corporations virtually never are involved in the production of anything their investments produce. The workers themselves are the ones who actually produce the products lol. Just like how investors & corporate executives at companies like Chiquita don't grow, harvest, clean, etc any of the agricultural goods that their companies produce. It's only the workers who do that.
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posted on Mar, 1 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: richapau

It's called profits and it preys on the weakest in society.

Pathetic to begin with, taxes are supposed to balance stuff. Now look around and ask yourself: how are we supposed to clean up the Mess of FckUshima, in order to (eventually) save this planet for humanity, without taxes?

TEPCO? What kind of morons are you people, the radioactive type?



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 03:14 AM
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Remember the military parade Trump was talking about some time ago!
How about the NRA running it, with armed civilian citizens ? Could be called : "The militia parade"



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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There is a bit of irony here since LaPierre was the one who launched Socialist Bernie Sanders' political career backing him over the Republican Candidate.



posted on Mar, 2 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: enlightenedservant

It's a failed idea. How can the workers own something they they did not produced. They are rewarded by payment in an agreement for their work, but it is immoral to steal another's persons business when they took all the risk. It's an ideology of thievery and that's why it always 100% fails.


So we're supposed to ignore self employed entrepreneurs, who are literally workers that own the means of production for their businesses? And what about family owned businesses where the family members are also the workers? Co-opts can also be business organizations/associations that are owned by their workers. And the whole point in programs that allow workers to buy stocks in the companies they work for is to allow the workers to gain part ownership of the "means of production".

In other words, I think your post is absolutely wrong. And those are just some examples right here in the good ole USA that refute your post. Anything else?


ETA: Also, it's funny that you asked "How can the workers own something they they did not produced" when opposing socialism. Investors in corporations virtually never are involved in the production of anything their investments produce. The workers themselves are the ones who actually produce the products lol. Just like how investors & corporate executives at companies like Chiquita don't grow, harvest, clean, etc any of the agricultural goods that their companies produce. It's only the workers who do that.
that's fine but you and others keep using this as some kind of baseline for your ideals of a socialist utopia. I have to keep saying that. It's Marx and Lenin said that socialism was the bridge to communism and they both also said that to achieve their goals of the Revolution they would have to implement a dictatorship of the proletariat. Do you see any evidence that the State is going to wither away?



posted on Mar, 3 2018 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: richapau

It's called profits and it preys on the weakest in society.

Pathetic to begin with, taxes are supposed to balance stuff. Now look around and ask yourself: how are we supposed to clean up the Mess of FckUshima, in order to (eventually) save this planet for humanity, without taxes?

TEPCO? What kind of morons are you people, the radioactive type?
You mean they are for balanced the budget? Congress used taxes to pay for the Revolutionary war. If you meant redistributing income no but a socialist Cpngress today uses it for that. Not sure why you brought up Tepco and the environment. Last time I checked Fukushima was Japan. Were you implying that Americans are responsible to clean up the environment with taxes? Or did I misunderstand ?




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