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Statists and Gun Control

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posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 03:24 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Why does anybody need an assault rifle?



Never get one. You Don't Need One.

Call 911 instead.





posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 07:02 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Why does anybody need an assault rifle?


Why do you need the things you own? Maybe the .gov should come to your house and decide what you need and take away the rest? Sounds fair, too, right?
edit on 27-2-2018 by vor78 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 08:42 AM
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So LesMis, do you think it is time to do something about school shootings, such as getting rid of gun-free zones and allowing teachers to carry and possibly have an armed Sheriff or something at each school?
edit on 27amTue, 27 Feb 2018 08:43:27 -0600kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: pthena

It’s meant to be pejorative. A statist is someone who advocates for centralized government control over social and economic affairs, for reasons that I argue involve a complete repudiation of personal responsibility, community and even family.

Your military remarks do not apply, because a military is neither state nor government. But yes, if you want a government that is run like a military, socialism is the way to go.



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 08:52 AM
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Putting the blame on inanimate objects to flee our responsibility on events like this is current "common sense". Sad time we are in. It's our fault if these kinds of events occur. We let some "experts" tell us how to educate our children, we fill them with pills that have some nasty side effects.

Anyone here that took a drug and thought he was in a video game, that the reality would comeback to the state it was after the buzz wore off? no matter what you do in the trip? Anybody, when on drugs, do things that he wouldn't do if not on the drug's effects?

Pills are drugs, and they can amplify a state of mind, to the point that you'll do something you normally won't. It's even more likely to happen if the kid's parents haven't educate him because they don't have the time to, so they let the system do it for them. The same system that keep them to work, so they can't have the time for education.

So the kid, in his madness fueled by drugs, will go in a rampage to stop his pain, to get his revenge, or whatever the reason behind the carnage. The medication will just boost his emotional state to the point it is out of control. This will prevent him to reflect adequatly, to meditate on his mental state, to find solutions. He will just want to stop suffering, as soon as possible.

The problem doesn't comes from the medicaments either, which are as inanimated as the guns, but the people giving the children these kind of medication without knowing what they are, what they do and not educate them to control their emotions.

We have an education problem, and it doesn't come from school.



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: darkbake
So LesMis, do you think it is time to do something about school shootings, such as getting rid of gun-free zones and allowing teachers to carry and possibly have an armed Sheriff or something at each school?


First, I think there is a reason they shoot up schools rather than, say, the mall. The school is a part of the problem. Second, yes, I think highly-trained armed staff would be a good idea, both as deterant and defender. But there is something sad about armed teachers.



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Right, there is something sad about armed teachers. Do you think that the way schools are set up has something to do with school shootings? What would you change?

I remember I went to a Montessori school as a child, the learning environment was entirely different. There were assignments due at the end of each week and we could structure our time as we saw fit and learn on our own.



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

About the deputy’s failure to act, CNN’s Chris Cillizza, doing his best impression of a potato, says “Here's definitive proof that a good guy with a gun doesn't always stop a bad guy with a gun”. But most of all, it’s definitive proof of the inadequacy of government bureaucracy, and a prime example of state-run protection, as it sits outside and waits for it all to be over.


I would argue that ex-Deputy Scot Peterson (I've seen his first name spelled with one and two Ts), at the time of the shooting, was not a good guy.

As for the rest of your post: Spot on and very well-written.




posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

There's something very sad about even contemplating the necessity of arming teachers, or anyone else in a school. But, until a better solution presents itself, there is a necessity.



posted on Feb, 27 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

There's something very sad about even contemplating the necessity of arming teachers, or anyone else in a school. But, until a better solution presents itself, there is a necessity.


I agree. One thing is for certain, that's a much better solution than eroding human rights.



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