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originally posted by: neo96
The Supreme court is inconsistent.
They say not everyone has the right to keep and bear arms.
Then they turn around and say EVERYONE has the Right to get married.
Two issues one stone.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: BlueAjah
Remember all the Wild West towns that banned guns City limits??
If the second amendment was about private citizensright to guns “cannot be infringed “ then it couldn’t be limited at all...
It doesn’t say “cannot be infringed, except automatic weapons and tanks and such..”
It says cannot be infringed , period..
Arms do not = guns.. they equal warships and cannons and everything else between a rock and an icbm..
NONE OF THAT MEANS THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE OK WITH DISARMAMENT!!
1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Pp. 2–53.
You do know your posts are filled with complete disinformation don’t you?
The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. In England, the people have been disarmed, generally, under the specious pretext of preserving the game: a never failing lure to bring over the landed aristocracy to support any measure, under that mask, though calculated for very different purposes. True it is, their bill of rights seems at first view to counteract this policy: but the right of bearing arms is confined to protestants, and the words suitable to their condition and degree, have been interpreted to authorise the prohibition of keeping a gun or other engine for the destruction of game, to any farmer, or inferior tradesman, or other person not qualified to kill game. So that not one man in five hundred can keep a gun in his house without being subject to a penalty..
to keep and bear arms (Art. II) is not infringed by laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons
The prohibition is general. No clause in the constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both.
The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.
As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: whywhynot
Please provide one quote from an elected official saying they want to ban all the guns....
Let's Be Honest, The Latest Gun Control Bill Is Pretty Much A Total Ban On Firearms
House Democrats have introduced a bill banning semi-automatic firearms in the wake of the Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla. Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I., announced Monday he is introducing the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018. More than 150 Democrats have signed on in support of the legislation, Rep. Ted Deutch, D-Fla., said.