It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

School shootings in America and the real reason behind it.

page: 1
11
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:01 PM
link   
A thought on school shootings and the real reason behind it in America.

This has nothing to do about guns. It has to do about the culture changing. I say this as an old person who had a gun in my truck in the school parking lot in California in 1982. Like everyone else. Progressives talk about a "gun culture" and how we need to restrict yet another right because... the children. This is a false narrative. We really had no school shootings in the 80's. We had lots of guns. What changed?

So in the liberal/progressive (there is no realistic difference anymore) world, raising your child has morphed from a family unit with a child that goes to school to taking a village to raise one. The village has voted that Johnny doesn't need boundaries. Johnny needs a trophy for even showing up at school. Johnny is told that he can be Jane if he wants to be... ignore that thing between your legs because there are no real boundaries! That is an illusion that can be fixed if you want. Dealing with reality? Don't worry about that! You will be given whatever you feel you need! Anyone who thinks differently from your teacher and yourself is a racist bigoted pig!

These children no longer have any boundaries. Any that the parents try to impose are shouted down or DHS is brought in to educate the parents. These are children that now could not even deal with the results of an election... we all remember the poor snowflakes that needed crayons, safe spaces and petting animals to deal with life.

Then progressives wonder why Johnny, who has been given no boundaries in life and has been never been taught to deal with life, reality or confrontation, was dissed by someone in the hallway and didn't understand that the Active Shooter Johnny boundary is a big deal.

Keep in mind, the upper echelons of Progressivism in the US could give a rat's butt about children being slaughtered. To them, it is a means to an end... getting rid of those pesky guns. Who made these gun free zones in the first place?


Over the past decades the political outlook of Americans has become more progressive, with those below the age of thirty being considerably more liberal than the overall population. According to recent polls, 56% of those age 18 to 29 favor gay marriage, 68% state environmental protection to be as important as job creation, 52% "think immigrants 'strengthen the country with their hard work and talents,'" 62% favor a "tax financed, government-administrated universal health care" program and 74% "say 'people's will' should have more influence on U.S. laws than the Bible, compared to 37%, 49%, 38%, 47% and 58% among the general population.


Does this have something to do with the rise in school shootings? Of course it does.

You want to ban something, at least start looking at why something is happening.

It's the culture, stupid. It is the progressive belief system that has gotten us here.

Want to really save a kid's life, start weeding out the ideology that is making it happen, over and over and over....




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:05 PM
link   

originally posted by: Lumenari


Over the past decades the political outlook of Americans has become more progressive, with those below the age of thirty being considerably more liberal than the overall population. According to recent polls, 56% of those age 18 to 29 favor gay marriage, 68% state environmental protection to be as important as job creation, 52% "think immigrants 'strengthen the country with their hard work and talents,'" 62% favor a "tax financed, government-administrated universal health care" program and 74% "say 'people's will' should have more influence on U.S. laws than the Bible, compared to 37%, 49%, 38%, 47% and 58% among the general population.

Does this have something to do with the rise in school shootings? Of course it does.



Ya imma go with no. This pretty much describes.the country I live in...which.funny enough has no school massacres.
edit on 23/2/2018 by dug88 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:10 PM
link   
Definitely explains why the Vegas shooter did what he did. You know, spoiled brats and culture changes.

Damn kids nowadays.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:18 PM
link   

originally posted by: RomeByFire
Definitely explains why the Vegas shooter did what he did. You know, spoiled brats and culture changes.

Damn kids nowadays.


He didn't get a trophy for participation.
And he didn't like Country and/or Western Music which obviously makes him a librul/progressive Hillary/Soros lover.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:18 PM
link   
Read your Bill Cooper. The CIA or some similar organization is behind it all.
edit on 23-2-2018 by starviego because: (no reason given)

edit on 23-2-2018 by starviego because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:20 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari



The US has a long history of gun violence.

www.rawstory.com...

everytownresearch.org...

www.gunviolencearchive.org...
edit on 23-2-2018 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:21 PM
link   

originally posted by: RomeByFire
Definitely explains why the Vegas shooter did what he did. You know, spoiled brats and culture changes.

Damn kids nowadays.



All kinds of wrong with that post.

Unless he was a late bloomer.





posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:28 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari

You were going somewhere with promise when you said "children no longer have any boundaries. Any that the parents try to impose are shouted down or DHS is brought in to educate the parents." but then you veered off again and got off in the weeds.

Entitlement, lack of self respect, lack of discipline, lack of morality, a system which sternly punished appropriate responses to bullying and formation of pecking orders that end up pushing kids to bottle up natural anger that releases in massive outpourings rather than healthy fist fights, these are all factors... but they impact liberals and conservatives. It's odd, I've read lately that the present generation of kids is actually a lot more conservative and interested in God, morals, and healthy relationships with themselves and their families than Millenials are. If true, it shoots your theory in the foot. (And, to be honest, it makes sense that the generation would be more conservative. It's the first full generation who isn't much better off than their parents were since the Great Depression... an event which actually produced a very, very conservative, self reliant generation.)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:29 PM
link   

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: RomeByFire
Definitely explains why the Vegas shooter did what he did. You know, spoiled brats and culture changes.

Damn kids nowadays.



All kinds of wrong with that post.

Unless he was a late bloomer.




I agree, the OP is all sorts of wrong.

Blaming participation trophies for mass shootings is as stupid as blaming video games.

But people continually do it. But I digress, if we ban video games and participation trophies mass shootings will magically end. According to some.




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:43 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari

" Keep in mind, the upper echelons of Progressivism in the US could give a rat's butt about children being slaughtered. To them, it is a means to an end... getting rid of those pesky guns. Who made these gun free zones in the first place? "


There is the Rub . a Progressive Liberal AGENDA Regardless of the Lives Lost in the Pursuit of it .....



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 08:28 PM
link   
Bad moral values pushed by the left



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 09:18 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari

Since it is usually white males, my guess is that part of the issue is with the right. Constantly telling them that the white male is under constant attack.

As for the racists one, it also could be the rights constantly shoving propaganda in their face and always attacking the minorities. You know the Muslims, gays, African Americans, Mexicans, Native Americans, women (not a minority, I know) or whatever minority is acting all uppity and need to be put in their place and reminded whose country this is (to them anyways).

I have no idea how you can turn this on the left when it is usually your target audience that ends up committing mass shootings.
edit on 23-2-2018 by donnydeevil because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 09:29 PM
link   

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Bad moral values pushed by the left


Right, Trump is the personification of conservative moral values.




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 10:14 PM
link   

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Bad moral values pushed by the left


Right, Trump is the personification of conservative moral values.



No. Hes like a President Johnson Democrat. Back when Democrats were Democrats and not progressive Socialists



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 09:15 AM
link   
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Also add, that when ever morality is in decline, violence also goes up.

My observation:
I see the left discouraging morals and ethics, by labeling those with such values as "bigots, or racist, or Nazi". It is a fear based tactic they use to try and gain support for their agenda.

What happens when people become immoral? They think they can do whatever they want without consequences. They are even criticizing Christians because of those moral values.

When a person loses his morals, he or she is a danger, a menace to society. This is also called the narcissistic mentality, it is also a mental disorder. It is THIS mentality that brings about violence, murderers and thieves, add pathological lying to the list and you have a repeat of Hitlers SS army because they literally did the same tactics the left are now currently doing. (I had to make this comparison because it's extremely important to learn from history and not repeat the same mistakes over and over again.)

So of course the lack of morals and ethics will bring about criminal acts such as mass shootings, terror attacks etc.

The OP has a good point on how people are being indoctrinated into this belief system, because it is actually happening in public schools. (Get them while they are young.)

Mark Passio Indoctrination Public Schools & Outcome Based Education


Mark Passio Freedom & Morality The Aquinas On Liberty Essay by Dave Lenef

edit on th2018000000Saturdayth000000Sat, 24 Feb 2018 09:16:27 -0600fAmerica/ChicagoSat, 24 Feb 2018 09:16:27 -0600 by SoulSurfer because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 12:11 PM
link   
a reply to: olaru12

Yep he certainly is! Hypocritical self-serving values. Obama didn't cheat on his wife with a pornstar, pay her off and lie about it. He truly does exemplify the right and everything wrong with it.



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 04:33 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari

The kid was abused in life like Charles Manson, this is not nuclear physics.

Abuse very often leads to some kind of anti-social behavior it’s just that in the USA it comes out often, too often, in mass shootings.

Therefore if the guns weren’t so prevalent is the theory maybe what the abused would do is less shootings if the guns are restricted

Its just simple logic



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 04:37 PM
link   
a reply to: Lumenari

WE have all those things in Canada plus:



It's most certainly a gun culture/gun issue.

~Tenth



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 04:43 PM
link   
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Have you seen Canadian road rage videos?.
You guys are too polite for shooting up a school.
I do not think the USA will solve this problem for decades
.



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 04:46 PM
link   
Only thing is the rest of the developed world, which is generally more liberal* than the US, has less mass shootings.

Couldn't possibly be something to do with all the guns?

*In the American meaning of the word.




top topics



 
11
<<   2 >>

log in

join