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A cop's take on the Stoneman Douglas Resource Officer

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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6


Without being inside his head, we won't ever know what he knew, when he knew it, and what he chose to do about it, or not do about it.


Fair enough... to some extent.


We can come up with a reasonable scenario using other evidence...


The audio/transcript of his call to dispatch will tell us much in terms of what he knew, what he believed, what he was told, what he heard, what he saw. We can start there.




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: UnBreakable

I reckon we all wait until we see the footage that hasn't been released and hear what the man himself has to say about what was going through his head before we all arm ourselves with keyboards and condemn his "cowardice".

What do people say about that? Sounds pretty reasonable to me hey?

 




like it says in the song 'I heard it through the Grapevine'.....believe Half of what you see---and N one of what you hear'

I believe that no communication device was available to Peterson... he was only for 'Show' & for the Schools' insurance rating to have a semi-retired Officer on Patrol on the grounds...
& who knows if Scot Peterson was not set in a sniper position, waiting for the gunman/gunmen to get into the open....
the investigation will shed light on the circumstances

perhaps that's a reason for the police protection -- from anguished parents -- not from Nick Cruz Fans & followers



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Broadcastify keeps recordings of radio traffic on their website. Unfortunately you have to be a premium member to access their archived feeds, which costs money.

I know there are some broadcastify members on ATS, so perhaps one of them will see this and pull the archives for us.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: St Udio

You've got that song stuck in my head now. Not sure whether to thank you or punch you.




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:04 PM
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Could?
Should have been stopped.
There was a series of signs and incidents was left unchecked to allow this to ever happen.
It reeks of deep state involvement to me.
REEKS of it.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: samkent


A 9mm against an AR at 100 feet down the hall is a fatal mistake.


I'll point out that in 2017 two Capitol cops went toe to toe with a rifle-wielding attacker while they were themselves armed only with handguns.

And did so on a baseball field.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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Please, just suicide quickly. No one will ever look at you again a without a disgusted expression. How can he look at himself in the mirror? He will see the faces of the kids he could have helped for the rest of his pathetic life! Just saying.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: samkent


A 9mm against an AR at 100 feet down the hall is a fatal mistake.


I'll point out that in 2017 two Capitol cops went toe to toe with a rifle-wielding attacker while they were themselves armed only with handguns.

And did so on a baseball field.


It's now being reported that the sheriff has covered up the fact that 3 more deputies arrived and did nothing to intervene. So a total of 4 deputies did nothing until the Coral Springs PD arrived. CSPD went in first. I'll look for a link.

ETA www.breitbart.com...
edit on 23-2-2018 by Khaleesi because: added link



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Boadicea

Broadcastify keeps recordings of radio traffic on their website. Unfortunately you have to be a premium member to access their archived feeds, which costs money.

I know there are some broadcastify members on ATS, so perhaps one of them will see this and pull the archives for us.


That would be great! Keeping my fingers crossed...



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:04 PM
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Does this help?

www.youtube.com...

Not Broadcastify traffic but purports to be a full recording

Also, another user left this comment


Okay, you all are either going to hate me or love me. lol I was a dispatcher for about 21 years, 9 of them in a 911 center and 9 years answering 911 calls. I took the liberty of transcribing the pertinent parts of this tape. I didn't get every transmission, but I did get the information pertaining to the shooting incident and explained the codes. Brad Z, you're welcome to attach this to your scanner vid if you'd like. Just give me the credit for the work.



www.youtube.com... YouTube user who also claims to have transcribed the entire tape. This would be searchable
edit on 2/23/2018 by JBurns because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Could?
Should have been stopped.
There was a series of signs and incidents was left unchecked to allow this to ever happen.
It reeks of deep state involvement to me.
REEKS of it.


The "deep state"

or old monarchy families or bankers or whoever the hell this group is is fighting back full force and I can't believe how many people fall for it



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:24 PM
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Also, here is fire/ems traffic

www.youtube.com...

Also "radio malfunction" and now multiple deputies are said to have remained outside? This has got to be disinformation or a misunderstanding. In the case of the deputies, one remaining outside is a fluke. But three or more? That is frankly not possible. No one gave them orders to stage, that was for SRT folks

Once again, what is going on. Either way, I get the impression we are in some deep doo doo folks.
edit on 2/23/2018 by JBurns because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

No, you can't.

But there's a certain level of expectation of performance when you're a LEO. Irregardless of the reality, many folks see the local cop/sheriff as someone they can depend upon to be there where the rubber meets the proverbial road.

Joe Friday. Matt Dillon. Wyatt Earp. Bat Masterson. etc... That it's not the reality, doesn't change the fact any.

When I was a kid, my sister and I heard noises in the back yard that scared our dogs half to death. Absolutely terrified them. We were 10 (me), and 15 (my sister)...we called the cops, with the expectation that they'd be there. They were. Ten of 'em. Checked the yard, the old garage in the back yard and my Dad's shop. Nothing. But two of them stayed with us, 'til Mom and Dad got back a bit later, an hour or so.

That's what they're supposed to be. The guys that come a'runnin' when danger calls.

Ten years later, I walk over to my sisters place, the same sister oddly enough, and find the door to her place wide open. No sister, no 3 year old niece, no 8 year old niece, no 13 year old cousin. No note. No nothin'.

That, my friend, is an OH, # moment...

So, I dial the cops--tell the operator what's goin' on, it takes 'em two hours...two f'n bleepin' hours to show up. Mean while, I'm goin' out of my mind with worry, not to say panic, though I wasn't far off. This is a prison town, for Christs sake, and some of the township are worse than the cons on the Hill. All manner of thoughts, none pleasant, are running through my head.

Two hours?? So, finally, they roll up, and casually saunter up to the porch... Terror/Fear, whatever you care to call it, was instantly replaced by sheer unadulterated rage...

I can not quote what I said, as I'd be banned, to those "police"... I got threatened with going to jail. It was then that everyone arrived home...they'd gone out shopping than to lunch.

My respect for police took a huge hit that day...let me tell you. I'm the one who calls, and I almost get arrested. I admit, my temper got the better of me...but the sheer level of "don't give a #" pissed me off. Still does, 30 plus years later...

Since then, I've had both good, mostly, and bad (few and far between, thankfully) encounters. But that ultimate, almost childlike trust, is gone. Yet many cling to it.

When the job also includes protecting our kids? Oh, I quite understand the reaction of disbelief, colored by anger/rage, that has been expressed.

When I first heard this story, I was instantly transported back to that open door, and 3 missing girls. Not fun. Not fun, at all.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Has Perterson ever been in a similar situation before?

As in, has there been a history of freezing when tshtf?

There’s no way to know how one would react in that situation, I’m sure all of us would like to think we’d have a clear mind and be able to act accordingly, but the reality is completely different.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
Could?
Should have been stopped.
There was a series of signs and incidents was left unchecked to allow this to ever happen.
It reeks of deep state involvement to me.
REEKS of it.


The "deep state"

or old monarchy families or bankers or whoever the hell this group is is fighting back full force and I can't believe how many people fall for it





Ate you suggesting the police are in league with the deep state or they just brainwashed those 4 not too act ?

This has little to do with elites and their plans for world domination, this is a case of poor training coupled with cowardice.
edit on 23-2-2018 by hopenotfeariswhatweneed because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:42 PM
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At ~29:00, just after radio traffic IDing the subject as N. Cruz came across, an officer (who sounds like the incident commander) on the radio mentioned spreading out the perimeter. Specifically, he stated "we need to spread this perimeter out, he could be as far away as Coral Springs Walmart" Then he starts verbally laying out the perimeter, and once again mentions Walmart. Specifically: "and locking down the Walmart" Was there a reason for this? Was there some type of sighting..? Was there another channel besides the dispatch channel? Tac channel? Otherwise, where is this information coming from?

Didn't he actually go to a Walmart? And several other stores?

Surely we aren't mind reading now, are we? Hopefully someone can point out the mistake I must be making here, it's late.

www.youtube.com... ~29:00 (watch a min or two earlier to hear subject ID)
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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
If this event is a false flag event then Sgt. Heinrich was probably warned not to interfere. Now he is being sacrificed and scapegoated.

Lot's of strange things surrounding this mass murder. Since 9/11 it's hard to accept any official story about anything.



Interesting take.

Of course, you’re making things up to fit that narrative.

Because it makes perfect sense to warn him not to interfere, and hope he does as he’s told, right? That’s big risk right there, wouldn’t you say?



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed


I tend to agree with you.

However, the item of "gun control" plays directly into plans of the elite. Actually, disarming us is 100% a requirement for any prospective subversion.

This country has better and more numbers of firearms than any country ever has. Even those populations found ways to craft cheap firearms out of junk, and really caused problems for invaders. In the case of Americans, a lot of "pro 2A folks" have military/le/public safety training. Them vs. armed American society? They don't stand a chance. Not even on our worst of days.

This is exactly why firearms had to become the very last line in the sand. Nothing good comes from confiscation or even regulation. At the very minimum, it is the duty of Constitution loving patriots to ensure nothing good would come from it, either. Believe me when I say nobody wants a government that isn't constrained by the Citizenry's credible checks and balances.

Imagine the difference if Nazi Germany would've drawn their line in the sand at disarmament?



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: Khaleesi

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: samkent


A 9mm against an AR at 100 feet down the hall is a fatal mistake.


I'll point out that in 2017 two Capitol cops went toe to toe with a rifle-wielding attacker while they were themselves armed only with handguns.

And did so on a baseball field.


It's now being reported that the sheriff has covered up the fact that 3 more deputies arrived and did nothing to intervene. So a total of 4 deputies did nothing until the Coral Springs PD arrived. CSPD went in first. I'll look for a link.

ETA www.breitbart.com...



so its now 4 officers same department
Training issue?
now who do we crucify?



posted on Feb, 24 2018 @ 12:27 AM
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a reply to: spacedoubt

So other officers got there and ran in while they did nothing

Wow... Am I crazy here or what




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