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President Trump: “We have to do something” about violent video games, movies

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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:17 AM
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In a White House meeting held with lawmakers on the theme of school safety, President Donald Trump offered both a direct and vague call to action against violence in media by calling out video games and movies.

"We have to do something about what [kids are] seeing and how they're seeing it," Trump said during the meeting. "And also video games. I'm hearing more and more people say the level of violence on video games is shaping more and more people's thoughts."

Trump followed this statement by referencing "movies [that] come out that are so violent with the killing and everything else." He made a suggestion for keeping children from watching violent films: "Maybe they have to put a rating system for that." The MPAA's ratings board began adding specific disclaimers about sexual, drug, and violent content in all rated films in the year 2000, which can be found in small text in every MPAA rating box.

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*Sigh*

I thought we were past this Jack Thompson/Tipper Gore-esque bull#. Pretty much every country in the world consumes the same media we do and they don't have a problem with school shootings. So clearly media is not the cause.

Also, is he so out of touch with reality that he doesn't realize that games and movies are already rated for violence? Does he not know that it is illegal to sell children an M rated game or an R rated movie?

All the steps he is proposing have already been taken. The only thing left is outright censorship.

I thought we might actually be able to have a serious discussion on why we are the only country in the world where school shootings happen regularly. But it looks like both sides are just trotting out their same old scapegoats again.




posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:23 AM
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later they wonna get rid of wrestling



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

He should ban the Three Stooges.

Behold the violence in this scene!



Lol
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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Deflecting already. LMAO.

We have no issues with unstable persons having access to guns. But we have to do something about violent games, movies.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

he left out rap and heavy metal


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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:30 AM
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So, let me get this straight. Virtual guns should get banned, while real killing weapons shouldn't be touched ??



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I watched a cheetah chase down and eat a gazelle on TV-so violent! let's censor documentaries! I also watched a news report of Polynesian islands been affected by rising sea levels-sure it's fake news but hey lets censor climate change anyway!

I don't see Trump doing anything, because 1. all these crimes existed long before video games and movies existed, and 2. The video game and movie industry rake in hundreds of millions if not billions a year in taxes, and we know Trump's star sign is the dollar sign.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:39 AM
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Just like some of you, i have done some pretty nasty stuff in Grand theft auto games. But i have never, ever, not once, felt the urge to do the same thing in real life, on the streets. I don't want to hurt people and i don't want to die or get locked up.

Gamers and movie fanatics should be given some credit. At least to the point that they can differentiate the game/movie from real life. If that line can't be drawn in an individuals mind, the person has serious problems to begin with.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:39 AM
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We really will eventually be a society as seen in “Denolition Man” assuming we don’t blow ourselves to kingdom come beforehand. This pleases Simon!




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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:41 AM
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First thoughts: i love COD and GTA, and play both quite a bit (although not since the Olympics started). One of the 2 standards I have for watching a movie is there has to be shooting and/or explosions. Lame drama don't cut it for me.

Second thoughts: as special effects and video 3d rendering becomes more realistic, the lines between what is perceived as real and make believe will become more and more blurry. This is something to worry about when you are considering young, developing minds.

The lame graphics in video games i have seen to date just don't appear real. But we will eventually be there. i'd feel far differently if a game could show me dying to my children.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: Xcalibur254

he left out rap and heavy metal

You can ban video games and rap all you want but don't touch my heavy metal!



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:51 AM
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Guns don't kill people, movies do.

Classic.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:55 AM
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I would hate to see government involve itself in music and music videos. But i'd love to see the media that supports music and music videos find a way to make it artful again.

Boats and ho's just don't do it for me. I don't care about bling or getting crunk. What happened to Chuck D? Where's a message? Where is the art? Nothing artful about just throwing out verbal pornography. At least in the 70's and 80's it was artful allusions rather than crass descriptives.

As it regards rock and metal...thats moved beyond gore to just trying to be disturbing via the uncanny valley. No issues with that...its just confronting the irrational fears we have inside us.


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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:56 AM
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Florida - "Despite school massacres, we like our guns, lets discuss the dangers of porn."

Trump - "Lets keep our guns, it's the video games."

Oh the disaster that is America



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 06:56 AM
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The lame graphics in video games i have seen to date just don't appear real. But we will eventually be there. i'd feel far differently if a game could show me dying to my children.


Hmm, good point, very good point indeed.

However I must point out the inverse argument: letting children a way to express their dissatisfaction through a game enables them to vent their anger on a "punching bag" instead of on everyday life, and therefore approach real life with renewed reason.

A teen's mind is not so different than an adult's - they follow the same rough mechanism. Violence in the real world is caused by a sense of dissatisfaction which cannot be expressed. Giving them a way to safely express their dissatisfaction - video games - could actually be beneficial.


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posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:06 AM
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My youngest is dramatic. he says crazy things. He's quite like me.

Both my boys would play GTA with me growing up. We'd laugh at the inappropriate stuff in the game because it was always so absurd. We played Saints Row, too (far worse than GTA). There isn't a first person shooter platform we didn't play at least one installment of.

I agree with what you are saying. At least in general. But if you can visually represent people in 3d snuff films that looks like real life snuff films, im not sure we don't re-evaluate. If someone needs that kind of outlet for aggression and/or frustration, we likely need to intervene.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:07 AM
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Everyday we seem to just wanna up the ante, jumping just one shark wasn’t enough, the next day we went for two, then three.

Idiocy. Sheer unrepentant idiocy.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:09 AM
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True, I agree.

Expressing dissatisfaction is the symptom; solving the cause of dissatisfaction in the first place is always, um, preferable.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 07:11 AM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I watched a cheetah chase down and eat a gazelle on TV-so violent! let's censor documentaries! I also watched a news report of Polynesian islands been affected by rising sea levels-sure it's fake news but hey lets censor climate change anyway!

I don't see Trump doing anything, because 1. all these crimes existed long before video games and movies existed, and 2. The video game and movie industry rake in hundreds of millions if not billions a year in taxes, and we know Trump's star sign is the dollar sign.



School shootings were around before video games? I seem to remember the big ones all started in the 90's. I don't remember them when I was a kid in the 70's and 80's. We had guns then, plenty of them. We had pac man, and tempest, in arcades. We had atari, graphics weren't all that good. We had three channels. Mostly news. We didn't have a barrage of media telling us what to think. I don't remember my friends hopped up on drugs to help them "concentrate". We were respectful of others, or we got our asses busted.

Something changed, or rather, lots of somethings changed.

We need to figure out why our culture thinks like this, while other places just don't. Maybe it is the guns. But based on the common sense approach of thinking about the past, I just don't see it.




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