Parkland: What percent of Americans charge the building???

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Rightwing= tradition > progress


Leftwing = progress > tradition

Sorry, you're just another part of the problem thinking their side of us vs them is the solution.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Probably a very high percentage.
But it's "illegal" and it's a "gun free zone". Plus in doing the right thing? Nobody wants to get shot by a nervous jumpy cop that wants, "to make it home at night", just like any good citizen that has been illegally unarmed, by illegal "laws".

Liberal, unconstitutional laws have made this "problem". Not the guns.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Funny you mention driving and act like nothing remains to be done about these teen deaths, they could raise the legal age for one. I mean deaths are literally 10 to 1 and we have done every thing as a nation to lower teen deaths while driving. No mention at all on opioids and things the fix that.

You got no solutions for those real problems but want to squawk about progress, Dems/Reps are two sides of the same coin, neither one of them would ever go after these real killers of America youth. Its a crooked system and until you eliminate lobbyists it always will be crooked. and no I'm not for a ban not because it couldn't be done, but it's like pouring water on the burning match, while the house burns down. And no it's ban wouldn't cause civil war either, thats extremely over reactionary thought and shows you think the fringes represent the whole.

So i was right the answer is 0 will enter before the damage was done to 17.

a reply to: howtonhawky

Certain of that, are you? It must be nice to be so certain of things.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

You mean if it's not on you tube it never happened?

Legislation that there's no record of exists, according to you...but because there's no you tube video of it, those quotes have never been uttered.

Does reality often shift for you as you need it to?

Im guessing the car wasn’t shooting at you correct? Not even in the same league....a reply to: Krakatoa

a reply to: soundguy

Way to totally miss the point of the post.

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: howtonhawky

Certain of that, are you? It must be nice to be so certain of things.

facts are facts

the question was asked when we knew one stayed out and i answered

then here are 3 more not moving until the damage was done.

really my certainty is not the point the facts are

no idea put forward yet would have changed the numbers

don't make it personal i had nothing to do with the events

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
I know what just about every individual would say if asked what they would do..

Kinda like those who bash combat veterans who crack or go awhol I think the vast majority would piss their pants if faced with real combat..


No one can truely say how they would act if faced with almost certain death..

There are countless examples of police officers who refused to put themselves at risk to attemp to save someone..

INFACT THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT THAT A POLICE OFFICER TAKE ANY ACTION TO SAVE YOU...

I’m positive people are screaming for his prosecution..but he did nothing illegal. So that’s laughable. .


Obviously, he doesn’t deserve to guard anything ever again, but still..

So just to avoid all the macho “I would have gone in and put Rambo to shame and save the day!”

I’m not asking what you personally claim you would do..

I’m asking what percentage of Americans would have gone inside the building???


10%???

20% ???

40%???


I personally bet it is around 10%...

I think it takes a special person to forfeit his life for a stranger.. really in this situation it is potentially forfeiting your life JUST FOR THE CHANCE TO SAVE A STRANGER...

Can we blame someone for not being a hero??

Make no mistake he was a victim too..

Apparently you didn't listen to his superior and ultimately forced him to resign.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
So i was right the answer is 0 will enter before the damage was done to 17.

More than that and they sacrificed their lives without a gun or a bullet proof vest.

Also to the original poster, more Americans than you think would endanger their lives for others especially for children. It's a shameful attempt to disparage American and you should be embarrassed.

Oa reply to: mkultra11

First off 4 officers refused to enter.. 4... not 1..

There are countless cases of police officers refusing to endanger themselves to save a citizen..

One very public and sorts recent one was where 2 armed cops wouldn’t enter the subway car where a knife wielding madman was hacking people up.. they waited till a bleeding victim disarmed the guy to enter the car.

THEN THEY TOOK CREDIT FOR IT!!!


Procedure even says to wait for back up..


Im not saying no one would.. there are everyday people who charge into danger daily.. but are they the average...


Hell no..


So not only do people have to wait for an officer. They have to wait for the one in ten officers who will risk their lives without a truckload of backup..

a reply to: seagull

I mean that people are constantly making videos trying to prove “the left is comming to get your guns”..

And there is no example..

EVERYONE has known it was political suicide fir decades..

So the right fabricates a villian..

a reply to: putnam6

Fair enough..

You act like we can’t do both...

Like we have to choose lol..


I do have a solution..

Stop adding to the pile.. grandfather in the billion in population and still leave it legal to sell and trade them.

Stop making guns disposable as can’t wrAppers..


We already have 3 per person.. half the population doesn’t want one really..


So that leaves 6 guns per person do those that do..

Make guns heirlooms, collectibles.. prizes family possessions..


People look twice before selling theirs and twice at the person they are selling it to..

Criminals sell them because selling their gun is worth more than the gas station register has..

Give them the reverence they deserve.

Imho about 60% of the problem is people treat them like toys..

Not just mass shootings. All shootings drop dramatically in just a couple years..

a reply to: JoshuaCox

So nothing on the stuff thats actually killing the most kids.

You can ban the AR 15 completely it wouldn't start a civil war and they will just go on to another method hopefully less effective. But I don't think the right freaks out either.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

That is the Webster’s Definition..

In fact that highlights how much you only listen to right wing propaganda..


You should know what the dictionary definition is..

a reply to: murphy22

The first four cops who showed up didn’t do anything..