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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:38 PM
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I am neither A nor B.
I write in Gumby for President every time.
Binary division of political choices seems to me shallow and absurd.




posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Yeah, there is that!!!!
Too much truth for this person....



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Not really, as a member of group "C"...I don't really feel all that comfortable in either group.
I think there has to be a group that is neither A nor B.

Pick a side you Commie Nazi!



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Of course there is also a group C,D,E,F,G.....Obviously.

But the OP asked wich of those two groups you fit the most and why. Why state "c" when it´s obvious and already written/expected by the OP that that most do not fit 100% so what´s the point stating "I´m group c". Kind of ridiculous, don´t you think?


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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: AnonymousCitizen
The only thing everyone can currently agree on is that the the United States is divided philosophically.

We have "group A": liberal, pro-choice, socially accepting, for the common good, and likely voted for Clinton.
We have "group B": conservative, pro-life, nationalistic, rugged individuals, and likely voted for Trump.


You say you are group B?
Does that mean that you are against acceptance of society and being for the common good?

You are starting off with labels that aren't very descriptive.
Before you start confusing the issue with "magic" like the Mandela Effect you need to fix that.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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You are asked what icecream flavor you like the most out of those two:

vanilla
strawberry

you answered: pineapple. That´s what I mean.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: Blaine91555
Offtopic: Ever heard of space-time synesthesia? It´s not that uncommon, recent studies showed that 5-15% think and memorize that way. If you can remember other things like smell, what else happened, feelings you can count on your memory.

I was always flabbergasted why only I seem to remember stuff in such details and others, simply not. Now I know.


If you think your memories are completely reliable, you need to research it further. Memory is not off topic when the Mandella Effect is part of the OP.

We all think our memories are more accurate than others, but we all lie to ourselves.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555
That´s not what I wanted to say (that my memory is 100% reliable). I wanted to point out that maybe you or one of your friends could be thinking/memorizing the way I wrote.

I do hypnosis, memory is a fragile thing. In traumatized people, memory of what happened is often blocked off, for example. They do know, but the brain cut´s it out for the wellbeing of your mind.

Great if it´s not offtopic. I wrote it to point it out to others why might not be interested in this... not to say you are being offtopic (!).
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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: AnonymousCitizen

The Common Enemy syndrome seems to be what brings otherwise different people together.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 07:28 PM
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The Mandella Effect IS the Mandela Effect ....
A person tends to remember things as they choose , possibly not the way it was.
How does this link in ?
Mom was hardcore liberal and Dad was undeniably conservative.
I am conservative , wife is liberal
And the world turns and life goes on.



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: AnonymousCitizen


Ummm...I think your categories are skewed...I am liberal in the classic sense...socially accepting...and for the common good...from your “A” example...
I am also every one of the categories in your “B” example...

I have also never been an adherent of...”the Mandela effect”...
I tend to agree with Blaine in that memory is fragmented at best...and that the mind will stitch together fragments of thought and experience together with incomplete memories in order to present a whole tapestry...

This is much the same mechanism as dreaming IMO...

I also have this reoccurring thought that the Mandela effect might be perception experiments...a manipulation of information by certain entities...(3 letter)...in order to assess behavioral response to altered stimuli...

This thought train coupled with quantum reality versus perceptual realism leaves me wondering just how much not just the conversation is steered...but the narrative of what it means to exist in the first place...

Then of course...I further wonder...to what end...and why...








YouSir



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: AnonymousCitizen



Ummm...I wanted to thank you OP...for providing me some fat to chew...I really enjoy challenging my perceptual reality...
This is why I love ATS so much...these opportunities to stretch my imagination beyond the boundaries of what is learned...and into vast territories of the uncomprehended...

For me it’s not about being correct so much as it is the steps that make up the journey...besides...if we can’t trust our versions as truth...perhaps ever evolving perceptual awareness...is more about growth than culmination...


Thank you again for this opportunity to ponder...








YouSir



posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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The flaw with your O.P. is that you assume liberals and conservatives have the same data inputs. As someone who reads and watches from both sides, I can tell you that there is a lot of misinformation out there. I've personally seen straight-up lies being perpetuated as facts by right-wing media, and I'm sure it happens on the left sometimes, too.

The problem is that Democrats and Republicans today are dealing with different sets of FACTS - Republicans refuse to accept the scientific method, yet rely on prophecy and channeling without worry as they worship religious leaders. The two groups get their information from entirely different sources.

There are even people out there like QAnon who are fabricating whole narratives of "facts" on 4Chan for conservatives to use to form their opinions. Great, right?

Similar stuff probably happens on the left as well, but it hasn't come across my radar as often. However, I think the biggest example would be the Trump-Russia narrative, we have Democrats relying on false facts here, as well.
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posted on Feb, 22 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: verschickter

I get that....and maybe I should not have thrown in my monkey wrench.
But, some folks don't like vanilla or strawberry.



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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Time to break the false paradigm, the whole thing is a ruse and a distraction anyway.

Reminds me of the bullfighters red cape...


Would-be global rulers cannot physically control six and a half billion humans. Therefore, they must use secrecy and deceit. Keep the human herd ignorant and fighting with each other. Divide and conquer – it’s the oldest tactic in the book. And it’s relatively easy if you control the major academic institutions, the political parties and the major mass media (a mere five multinational corporations with interlocking directorships today control everything we see and hear. Jim Marrs

www.examiner.com...

For far too long, Americans have been told they exist only as members of warring camps—as Republican or Democrat, red state or blue, conservative or liberal, right or left, religious or secular, urban or rural, majority, minority and even minority/majority. It’s no coincidence that we are described by these labels—as if these labels defined us—by elites who alone stand to benefit from the very divisions they promote.

If they can convince the rest of us that we are at each other’s throats, on the verge of civil strife, these elites can make us believe our own neighbors are our enemies and that we have nothing in common but our hatred of each other.

By herding us into these warring camps, by pitting us against one another, these elites can also distract us from the real forces tearing this society apart—the unaccountable, irresponsible political establishment that now presumes to govern in our name, with no concern for anything but its own interests. By sowing these seeds of distrust, they divide and conquer, and for too long, they have succeeded.

Break the Left vs. Right Paradigm

Dr. Sutton believes the "left" versus "right" split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the "The Nation" and "The New Republic" and right-wing magazines like "The National Review were "artificially set up." The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are "The Order."

Dr. Sutton states: "Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left. This is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them." Similarly, in the international field left and right political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for one-world synthesis, i.e. authoritarian socialism controlled by monopoly capital. College textbooks present war and revolution as accidental results of conflicting forces. This is nonsense, says Dr. Sutton. They are created and financed by Wall Street to create a new world order. But you won't read this in history books.

THE BATTLE IS NOT BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT



posted on Feb, 23 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
And the world turns and life goes on.

Heh. Re: your avatar, I was in the 741st a long, long time ago. Now there's a memory.



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