Can anyone here answer Trumps latest question(s) for him?

I wouldn't mind knowing the answer to that question, especially in light of revelations that the DNC/Hillary/Obama colluded with humans in Russia to purchase uranium and a night with the fetish-specific hookers and that the FBI and DOJ were complicit in obtaining a FISA warrant to spy on Trump using nefarious documentation - the creation of which was bankrolled by team-Hillary AND to top it off, it looks like the CIA chief Brennan also lied under oath - all whilst under Obamas watch.

In keeping with CNN, it is unacceptable to collude with Russia Russia Russia, therefore 'traitor', until proven otherwise (this is the precedent set thus far).

Since investigations are all the rage these days, would anyone here object to an investigation being extended to focus in on the aforementioned allegations? It appears from Nunes' interview on Tucker this morning, that the gauntlet has been thrown down already in this regard, stating that he has found collusion between the Democratic campaign and Russia and that Subpoenas will be forthcoming if voluntary testimony is not provided by certain alphabet agencies.....



??

In the halls of the DoJ, just as the MSM, the answer is simple:
Obama can do no wrong...

Lawyers and most liberals revere Obama with an almost religious ferocity...

Muslims will never investigate Mohamed for marrying Aisha nor will Italy(Rome) investigate Jesus of Nazareth for tax evasion...

-Chris

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Fairly easy answer.

One Obama was not running for president. Nor does he investigate anything. He is the executor of law.

Two while the crimes are happening they are often not yet on the radar.

Three Devin Nunes is a shill. The guy votes for more surveillance of Americans everytime the chance comes up, he created his own fake news network.

Four is it a good investigative technique to broadcast your investigations before they go to charges?

Are we seriously playing this game?

Obama was talking about the Russian meddling while Trump was calling it a hoax and you are seriously going to listen to his blathering about Obama not doing anything. The Obama administration has said they regret they didn't do enough, but Trump really doesn't have a box to stand on here. He only shifted to this narrative now that he can't deny that the meddling didn't happen anymore.

Also, what exactly was Obama supposed to do to stop this meddling? Censor Facebook?

a reply to: Krazysh0t



-Chris

a reply to: Christosterone

I personally find it ironic the Trump has more lapdog than any president I can remember.

People constantly carry his argument strait from his tweets. They fully support anything he does.

Obama may have had his share but they at least got pissed when his rediculous promises didn't come to be.

Personally as someone who calls it all bullcrap. It's amusing to watch.

It's amusing to watch the ohh poor white people under attack because some crazy liberals said something in news crowd. Same people who say ignore the nazis and they will go away.

Fighting extremism with rational calm independent thought is gone I guess.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Are we seriously playing this game?

Obama was talking about the Russian meddling while Trump was calling it a hoax and you are seriously going to listen to his blathering about Obama not doing anything. The Obama administration has said they regret they didn't do enough, but Trump really doesn't have a box to stand on here. He only shifted to this narrative now that he can't deny that the meddling didn't happen anymore.

Also, what exactly was Obama supposed to do to stop this meddling? Censor Facebook?

What are you talking about? didn't do enough of what exactly?? according to Obama, there was no meddling in the elections. So which is it? Was there meddling or was Obama lying? and don't go splitting hairs about what Obama was specifically referring to in the quote below - the quote stands on its own merits and is not in any way ambiguous, it's clear that nothing was or is effecting the political process in the US, not even 16 Russians..

a reply to: Sublimecraft

The elections weren't rigged. Please drop that strawman fallacy. The meddling has to do with Russian bot farms spreading fake news and disinfo to shift and control public opinion. It has ALWAYS been about that.

There is also the possibility of conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign to assist in these ends but that investigation is still up in the air. Collusion definitely happened between them but that isn't illegal. Conspiracy is what is illegal.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Are we seriously playing this game?

Obama was talking about the Russian meddling while Trump was calling it a hoax and you are seriously going to listen to his blathering about Obama not doing anything. The Obama administration has said they regret they didn't do enough, but Trump really doesn't have a box to stand on here. He only shifted to this narrative now that he can't deny that the meddling didn't happen anymore.

Also, what exactly was Obama supposed to do to stop this meddling? Censor Facebook?

What are you talking about? didn't do enough of what exactly?? according to Obama, there was no meddling in the elections. So which is it? Was there meddling or was Obama lying? and don't go splitting hairs about what Obama was specifically referring to in the quote below - the quote stands on its own merits and is not in any way ambiguous, it's clear that nothing was or is effecting the political process in the US, not even 16 Russians..

Is it possible there are more than one group of liars?


Is it possible Obama, Trump, Hilary, Bush, Clinton are all liars and self interest promoters?

How was Ashcroft as an AG? How about Reno? Sessions?

Is there a pattern....hmmm

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Realistically speaking, the only things that anyone in the prior administration (bear in mind, Obama would have had nothing to do with the day to day giving of permissions to investigate this, or look into that, because he was never the head of the FBI, the Justice Department, or any other investigative body, but the President, which is not the same thing in the least), could have done to deal with the situation regarding the meddling in the election, would have been deliberately misconstrued by the Republicans, spun into something they weren't.

For example, some are saying "Why didn't Obama just announce the meddling was occurring?". This, of course, is somewhat stupid, because making such an announcement himself would have simply made it appear as if the current adminstration were trying to dirty the pitch for the new one. If the FBI had mentioned it instead, people would have yelled "THE DEEP STATE IS TRYING TO STOP THE DONALD! GRRR!"!!

There was literally no way for the prior administration to make clear what was happening, without some witless peon trying to make out it was their fault anyway!

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Sublimecraft

The elections weren't rigged. Please drop that strawman fallacy. The meddling has to do with Russian bot farms spreading fake news and disinfo to shift and control public opinion. It has ALWAYS been about that.

Of course the elections weren't rigged, but it wasn't about fake news and disinfo to sway public opinion either - here, Hillary explained it best as to what Russia was (is) doing....

"But increasingly, we are seeing cyber attacks coming from states, organs of states. The most recent and troubling of these has been Russia. There's no doubt now that Russia has used cyber attacks against all kinds of organizations in our country, and I am deeply concerned about this. I know Donald's very praiseworthy of Vladimir Putin, but Putin is playing a really ... tough, long game here. And one of the things he's done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack into the Democratic National Committee." — Hillary Clinton (presidential debate, transcript via CNN), Sept. 26, 2016

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Christosterone

I personally find it ironic the Trump has more lapdog than any president I can remember.

People constantly carry his argument strait from his tweets. They fully support anything he does.

Obama may have had his share but they at least got pissed when his rediculous promises didn't come to be.

Personally as someone who calls it all bullcrap. It's amusing to watch.

It's amusing to watch the ohh poor white people under attack because some crazy liberals said something in news crowd. Same people who say ignore the nazis and they will go away.

Fighting extremism with rational calm independent thought is gone I guess.

Ignoring nazis is the sole dominion of the left...
“Neville Chamberlain” ring any bells?
I’ll give you the one sentence he deserves:
In typical liberal fashion, he chose to avoid conflict with “talk”....

I find it rather funny u would use “ignoring nazis and they will go away” as an argument...
Because Nazis nearly took over the western world when ignored..

That’s what socialists do, by the way....they take all the power...
The National Socialist Party (NAZI) sought control over every aspect of German life...
They controlled everything from healthcare to railroads...
And when they were done with Germany, they wanted everyone to follow their rule...
They were typical socialists...despotic and controlling every one of them

-Chris

It's incredibly obvious that the point of the far left and far right is to beat the opponent.

The purpose of advancing policy or making America a better place is an after thought.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Yes. That is yet another way the Russians meddled in our elections.

In keeping with CNN, it is unacceptable to collude with Russia Russia Russia, therefore 'traitor', until proven otherwise (this is the precedent set thus far).

CNN colluded with Russia.

Now wut?

a reply to: Sublimecraft

That’s how bureaucracies operate. They tend to blame others for where their own incompetence is to blame. The Kremlin was involved in the Steele dossier, and it would be embarrassing to admit that Kremlin propaganda led them, bridled, to where they are.

originally posted by: Christosterone

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Christosterone

I personally find it ironic the Trump has more lapdog than any president I can remember.

People constantly carry his argument strait from his tweets. They fully support anything he does.

Obama may have had his share but they at least got pissed when his rediculous promises didn't come to be.

Personally as someone who calls it all bullcrap. It's amusing to watch.

It's amusing to watch the ohh poor white people under attack because some crazy liberals said something in news crowd. Same people who say ignore the nazis and they will go away.

Fighting extremism with rational calm independent thought is gone I guess.

Ignoring nazis is the sole dominion of the left...
“Neville Chamberlain” ring any bells?
I’ll give you the one sentence he deserves:
In typical liberal fashion, he chose to avoid conflict with “talk”....

I find it rather funny u would use “ignoring nazis and they will go away” as an argument...
Because Nazis nearly took over the western world when ignored..

That’s what socialists do, by the way....they take all the power...
The National Socialist Party (NAZI) sought control over every aspect of German life...
They controlled everything from healthcare to railroads...
And when they were done with Germany, they wanted everyone to follow their rule...
They were typical socialists...despotic and controlling every one of them

-Chris

Your post was pretty much.

Blah blah blah blah blah.

Out of context bs.

Pretty sure you know I was referring to Charlottesville.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Are we seriously playing this game?

Obama was talking about the Russian meddling while Trump was calling it a hoax and you are seriously going to listen to his blathering about Obama not doing anything. The Obama administration has said they regret they didn't do enough, but Trump really doesn't have a box to stand on here. He only shifted to this narrative now that he can't deny that the meddling didn't happen anymore.

Also, what exactly was Obama supposed to do to stop this meddling? Censor Facebook?

so the meddling was just the facebook stuff? and you folks want sanctions against Russia for that?

wow, this kind of makes the entire "Russia" thing a large joke.

a reply to: network dude

Leave it to you to twist my words up.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Sublimecraft

Yes. That is yet another way the Russians meddled in our elections.

Well, we both know who meddled more in the DNC during the 2016 election than the Russians and that's the American known as Debbie Wasserman Schultz.