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It is an illusion that gun bans protect the public. No law, no matter how restrictive, can protect us from people who decide to commit violent crimes. Maybe we should crack down on criminals rather than hunters and target shooters?
originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
originally posted by: aethertek
Wow we rank #1 out of the Banana republics, USA USA.
K~
Exactly! Where’s our trophy?
Guys, we’re just slightly better than Iraq!!!
Instead, as the chart at the link indicates, the United States is more like IRAQ and THAILAND, when it comes to the number of murders by gun.
originally posted by: carewemust
February 20, 2018
This was surprising to learn. At #31, the United States ranks quite a ways down the list of countries, when it comes to the number of GUN DEATHS per 100,000 citizens. We are not as violent of a country, as the News Media wants us to think we are.
Low levels of gun violence, seem to correlate with economic prosperity:
SOURCE with Global Charts: www.npr.org...
Take countries with the top indicators of socioeconomic success — income per person and average education level, for instance. The United States ranks ninth in the world among them, bested only by the likes of Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Iceland, Andorra, Canada and Finland.
Those countries all also enjoy low rates of gun violence, but the U.S. has the 31st highest rate in the world: 3.85 deaths due to gun violence per 100,000 people in 2016. That was eight times higher than the rate in Canada, which had .48 deaths per 100,000 people — and 27 times higher than the one in Denmark, which had .14 deaths per 100,000.
If greater "prosperity" brings less gun-violence, you'd think that the United States would be more in line with Canada. I think our prosperity levels are about equal, aren't they?
Instead, as the chart at the link indicates, the United States is more like IRAQ and THAILAND, when it comes to the number of murders by gun.
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: aethertek
So what's the wildcard?
K~
Seems that the US has taken in a lot of folks from the 30 countries with higher per capita murder rates than the US (in reality, where total murders are considered, the US ranks 98th in total murders... but this is 2018 and we have to overclassify everything, so let's only care about murders committed with firearms, ya?) One has to wonder, non-PC question though it may be, if the US has fallen victim to some additional baggage all these immigrants have brought along with them. Did the US allow a few too many carriers of violence to enter the country, creating a contagion we are now witnessing?
Eye Opener - United States Ranks 31st In Gun Deaths. Not Great but Not The Worst.
This brief review of gun laws shows that disarming the public has not reduced criminal violence in any country examined here: not in Great Britain, not in Canada, and not in Australia. In all cases, disarming the public has been ineffective, expensive, and often counter productive. In all cases, the means have involved setting up expensive bureaucracies that produce no noticeable improvement to public safety or have made the situation worse. The results of this study are consistent with other academic research, that most gun laws do not have any measurable effect on crime...
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Please read the report that was linked to in the above posting by "rickymouse"
...Gun laws may not reduce violent crime but criminal violence causes gun laws—at least, well-publicized crimes do. The only winner in this drama is bureaucracy. The rest of us lose liberty as well as safety. It is an illusion that further tinkering with the law will protect the public since no law, no matter how restrictive, can protect us from people who decide to commit violent crimes.
There have always been criminals, and there have always been deranged people. Murder has been illegal for thousands of years: we need only remember the saga of Cain and Abel. The mass media find gun crimes more newsworthy but multiple civilian murders by arson have historically claimed more lives than incidents involving firearms. The truth is we live in a dangerous world and the government cannot protect us, if for no other reason than the police cannot be everywhere. We must ultimately rely upon ourselves and it is only right we have the necessary tools to do so
All charts exclude deaths in armed conflict and from accidents or self-harm.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: carewemust
February 20, 2018
This was surprising to learn. At #31, the United States ranks quite a ways down the list of countries, when it comes to the number of GUN DEATHS per 100,000 citizens. We are not as violent of a country, as the News Media wants us to think we are.
Low levels of gun violence, seem to correlate with economic prosperity:
SOURCE with Global Charts: www.npr.org...
Take countries with the top indicators of socioeconomic success — income per person and average education level, for instance. The United States ranks ninth in the world among them, bested only by the likes of Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Iceland, Andorra, Canada and Finland.
Those countries all also enjoy low rates of gun violence, but the U.S. has the 31st highest rate in the world: 3.85 deaths due to gun violence per 100,000 people in 2016. That was eight times higher than the rate in Canada, which had .48 deaths per 100,000 people — and 27 times higher than the one in Denmark, which had .14 deaths per 100,000.
If greater "prosperity" brings less gun-violence, you'd think that the United States would be more in line with Canada. I think our prosperity levels are about equal, aren't they?
Instead, as the chart at the link indicates, the United States is more like IRAQ and THAILAND, when it comes to the number of murders by gun.
-CareWeMust
And of those deaths, I wonder how many account for suicides and accidental discharges.
originally posted by: aethertek
I see so you think poor destitute immigrants are the cause of the problem?
Too many poor is that your argument?
K~
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: aethertek
I see so you think poor destitute immigrants are the cause of the problem?
Too many poor is that your argument?
K~
Money has nothing to do with what I posted. Culture, however, does. You can't mix barn cats and house cats together and expect things to go well. The US "melting pot" experiment is a roaring success only if you look at the good stuff, if you look at the whole picture, you see cultural dissonance rear it's head and start to realize that a lot of bad stuff has accompanied the experiment. I'm not saying that the bad has outweighed the good (not saying it hasn't, either) but it certainly seems like situations in which that cultural dissonance revolves around differing values and grossly different social development stages, bad things happen.