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The Questions and Subjects No One is Discussing about these School Shootings

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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox




I do want to make it clear that I am not saying these events did not happen. however parts of these organizations, as you put it about the Deep State, allow things to happen for power grabs.


I never said they set them up, I think there are , no not just the FBI either they are just most recent, parts of these organizations do allow them to happen, they explain how they could not do X,Y,Z, without money, laws, personnel what have you, they get said items requested and these things just happen all over again.

There are plenty of great people who work for these agencies, there are also others who are not so great.




posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Grimmley

I understand your point, but the number of tips the FBI receives might help put things in perspective a bit...




This means that in January the FBI received something on the order of 50,000 tips. If they spend an average of, say, an hour on each one, that’s about 300 agents working full time doing nothing but investigating tips. Or, perhaps it means a thousand agents spending a quarter of their time on tips.
www.motherjones.com...

Futhermore, nothing Cruz did at the time of them receiving this tip would have warranted intervention - they could have interviewed him but again, how many tips do they receive with similar circumstances? They simply do not have the manpower or the crystal ball to allow them to prevent every one of these situations from happening.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

I understand what you are saying, I do. They deemed it worthy enough to interview the person who reported it for awhile, so they had to have some concerns of it. The excuse tho they couldn't run his name during this time, figure out where he was from, heck from what they are saying his info on social media alone was gold mine of red flags, but no one passed this to local LE where they already had reports of him torturing and killing animals. So yes, if they took the time to drive over an hour to interview the person who reported it, they could have spent the hour on the way back to run his information.

Why the local LE didn't step in to investigate those reports is beyond me. That is another topic altogether.

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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

20+ copycats have made similar school shooting threats on social media, in the last two days, and were arrested. One 19 year old girl was arrested for complicity because she knew two younger girls were going to make a false threat to try to get the school to close for the day, but she didn't report it.

Yet...Nikolas Cruz just blended in with 50,000 other 'tips' and there was no reason to take him seriously.

Please.

I almost kept my own kids home on Monday because of a threat in their school system. LE ended up apprehended the two people responsible overnight though.


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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: Grimmley

Problem. Reaction. Solution. They're justifying their existence while increasing their budgets... and who else benefits?



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift
I find it difficult to believe that the government has the focus or ability to keep a program up like this for very long, especially with all the changes in administrations. I think it's easy to see this as a conspiracy, but it's really just scared people acting like scared people, and they're unfortunately predictable that way.


And that's the kicker right there and what most people falsely assume.
For events such as false-flag school shootings to happen it wouldn't require the 'government', it would only require a small number of people with the money and whatever access to whatever methods needed to get it done. The government as a body can't do much but screw things up, when you have special interests ran by a handful of powerful people the sky is the limit. If you have money you have access to anything you want, and all it takes is one person with greasy palms to leak whatever secrets the buyer is willing to spend the money on, whether that be hypnosis, etc.
The sky is the limit.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

If the FBI can't separate legit threats from hot air, maybe they should outsource some of their investigating work to other trusted 3rd party firms, or would that be even worse than not following up on some of the tips?

I'm not sure what the solution is



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: hunamongyou
a reply to: dfnj2015

We already have extreme gun regulations. Adding more isn't going to accomplish diddly squat. Here's a fact though. A significant number of people are getting fed up with all the pushing. Laws banning anything will be ignored by many.
Every law abiding gun owner I know,is already fed up and has excepted the fact we wont have any choice except to just be criminals....cant beat them join them.
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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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The thing that he had brought up regarding these incidents, is it always comes back to money and more control. Now be it that it is part of the various organizations deep state operatives or not, they need to do their jobs. Trying to justify their need for more power and money needs to stop.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:47 PM
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You hit the nail on the head and knocked it out the other side!!!


a reply to: Grimmley



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: Grimmley

Is William Cooper the same government "insider" who said that the U.S. Government intentionally imported the AIDS virus to "cleanse" the country of Un-Christian-like behavior?



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Flesh699

originally posted by: Blue Shift
I find it difficult to believe that the government has the focus or ability to keep a program up like this for very long, especially with all the changes in administrations. I think it's easy to see this as a conspiracy, but it's really just scared people acting like scared people, and they're unfortunately predictable that way.


And that's the kicker right there and what most people falsely assume.
For events such as false-flag school shootings to happen it wouldn't require the 'government', it would only require a small number of people with the money and whatever access to whatever methods needed to get it done. The government as a body can't do much but screw things up, when you have special interests ran by a handful of powerful people the sky is the limit. If you have money you have access to anything you want, and all it takes is one person with greasy palms to leak whatever secrets the buyer is willing to spend the money on, whether that be hypnosis, etc.
The sky is the limit.


They do not have to be false flags tho, they can be real threats and events, they just do not need to be stopped and allowed to happen. There are a myriad of ways that the corrupt in these organizations can utilize these events.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Honestly not sure. I have not been able to actually been able to get my hands on the book, however I had heard of him long ago. I remember when I was younger in the early 80s I heard something to that extent tho. Realistically soe of the foundations and NGOs working together, I wouldn't say it couldn't be possible.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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IMO it's because we continually think of ourselves as an empire not a republic. We don't need to be great, we need to be free. To maximize liberty you don't need a police state or an empire gobbling army and navy.

These are the prices we pay to be great, but the greatness is just exploited by the wealthiest to get wealthier while the rest of us get poorer and lose our freedoms.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: SkeptiSchism

I agree, we need to go back to following the principles of the Constitution, and stop meddling in others affairs.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
Time for extreme gun regulations is now!

We need to pass laws regulating:

1. bullet caliber
2. Bullets per magazine
3. Possible rate of firing per minute whether manual or automatic
4. Muzzle velocity

Stinger missiles are not legal. AR-15s should not be legal either.
Nonsenese...Those thing would be un-Constitutional...You are advocating subverting and overthrowing our Constitution and Bill of Rights...The word for that is sedition and the penalty is serious jail time...You want to change the Constitution, work on that...



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: Grimmleythetruthsoldier.com... Milton William Cooper was shot in the head.
Thanks for the info


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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: Grimmley

I have to laugh a bit at the low intelligence political machine that promotes this cycle of bad behaviour in the intel community. From personal experience, CSIS alleges to know everything about me from my years working with the south African military/armscor/ci, 12000miles away, but they didn't seem to know anything about Russell Williams in their backyard. He was the CO at Trenton AFB, the guy that used to fly prime ministers and the queen around. In his spare time, he used to torture, rape and kill women. Hell, when he was in Scarborough with Paul Bernardo, it has been shown they were friends involved in rape contests. But CSIS vetted this tool so what was the agenda? Why would they let a sadistic rapist murderer attain such a high responsibility position? Unless they are all part of the same club.

The intel community will only tell you what they want you to know and only if it applies to an existing agenda.

Cheers - Dave
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posted on Feb, 21 2018 @ 02:17 AM
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So, as a supposedly free country within our Constitution, you want to limit citizen gun rights to definitely not be equal to our LEOs, military etc. Some democracy.

Ug, I can't.



posted on Feb, 21 2018 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: Grimmley

Whatever was like the 2nd amendment has already been taken away in Australia -
National Firearms Agreement

This occurred right after a mass shooting there - The Port Arthur massacre.

From old ATS post:

Just after noon on 28th April 1996, an unknown marksman opened fire on diners in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Australia. In less than 20 minutes at this and five other crime scenes, the marksman killed 35, injured 22, and crippled two cars with only 64 shots. Nineteen of the first twenty dead in the Broad Arrow Cafe died from single shots to the head


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