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What does the US do to help combat the GUN problem?

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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite




What does the US do to help combat the GUN problem?


Allow easier access to weapons.

www.cbsnews.com...




posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: neo96

To a certain degree I agree with you.

There can be no meaningful gun control until we address the underlying causes; poverty and state of the mental health of the individuals committing these crimes.

And since we don't want to help the poor or give people health care. Nothing is going to change.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: grey580

Gun control is directly forbidden by the Bill of Rights, and the 14th.

Why do people not understand this?



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: kelbtalfenek

A violent gun culture is a certain demographic only. The numbers reflect a group with the dis me I cap yo ass crowd.

For the majority, they are used for hunting and other recreation, then lastly defense.

Defending from tyranny is about the last thing they are owned for, even though thats the unrealistic thought the government has beacuse they know deep down they are doing the wrong things and want to do more.

It's like a big power struggle because they don't represent us anymore.

Hence the emotional bs to get you to agree with right removal.

I can't believe I need to type this out, it's so obvious.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:04 PM
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I legally own a gun and securely make sure it can never be abused but I know others that I would rather didn't have a gun. The problem is massive and access is a joke!


So you are OK but you feel that certain others should not have a firearm.

Maybe they or others feel the same about you.
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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:07 PM
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I think someone created a thread the other day proposing a 'sponsor' system, which obviously got totally trashed and was completely disregarded...

But actually, it really was an intelligent and well thought out proposal... imo.

In Australia, you need at least a doctor or police officer to vouch for you, to say that they've known you for at least a year and think you are mentally sound and responsible enough to own a firearm... This kind of restriction would obviously never be accepted in the states.

But what about a policy where any respected member of society can vouch for you? Like a family member whose simply held a job down for 10 straight years, for example...

It could actually be quite effective, without totally restricting US citizens "right to bear arms"...I doubt anyone would of freely vouched for Cruz to purchase an AR-15.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Seriously, should I call a cop and ask if I should have my drills taken away too?

I could easily drill holes in a bunch of people.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

What you are suggesting is a restriction to a Right. If I am a loner who lives far from town, or I just moved into an new area and know no one, I do not have the rights to own a firearm?
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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: roadgravel

With that attitude, there is no way this guy owns a gun.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

You are correct. Rights are NON NEGOTIABLE, compromising on ones RIGHT's makes them no longer RIGHT's but privileges afforded by the government. RIGHT's are given to us by our Creator, not by some creation of men. This goes for ALL RIGHT's, not just the 2A.

Feelings do not have a factor in the debate, RIGHT's are RIGHT's feelings have NOTHING to do with this.

So the short answer is No Compromise on ANY of Our RIGHT's, end of debate.

Grim
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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

In Australia Doctors and Police are just a little more equal, and can authorize you?

In the US doctors and police aren't really trusted.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Grimmley

God gave us the right to bear arms?
No #?



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


This is akin to a poll tax, it would only impact poorer citizens who might not be able to afford insurance to exercise a Constitutional right.


Any also kind of infringes on that whole "right" thing.
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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Grimmley

God gave us the right to bear arms?
No #?


Who/whatever created us dropped us on a planet full of deadly creatures, but no natural weapons to use. What we were given was a brain that allows us to create weapons.

Us owning whatever weapons are available in the arsenal of human ingenuity seems to be consistent with natural law. Its no different than a cat having claws.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: Reydelsol

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

What gun problem??



Because everything is fine and dandy in the USA.


School shooting are perfectly normal and a sign of a healthly, stable society.......



The denial on this thread is amazing.....


No, not denial, merely the wrong target on yours part.

Mental problem, not a gun problem, at all. Unfortunately, your ilk look to the easiest apparent solution when in fact it's about the only solution that is virtually impossible to attain.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Yes all of our rights are imbued by our Creator, and are inalienable (meaning NO MAN can take them away). The Constitution is supposed to be the restraint on the Federal Government on what they are allowed to do, anything that is NOT explicitly stated in the Constitution is forbidden and unconstitutional.

The Bill of Rights - were the Amendments are explicitly mentioned are there for a reminder of what States and the Federal Governments CAN NOT DO.

Also, if you are not an American citizen, (this is going to upset a lot of people) you DO NOT have any valid input into this debate. This is regarding the USA, and our Rights, not any other country in the world. No other countries, gun laws, socialistic reforms, free speech zones, or any other form of political correct social justice crap are relevant. You can have your opinions, however if you are not an American citizen, then you need to understand your laws and privileges are not going to work in the US.

The RIGHTs of Americans are just that AMERICANs, no other country in the world has OUR Constitution, I think they are missing out, however unfortunately for the rest of the world the US Constitution is just that American.

FFS people learn the guiding document to the US before you all try to say it needs to be fixed.



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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if only you people cared about the emoluments clause listed in article 1, section 9 clause 8, of the constitution, as much as you care about the 2nd amendment of the constitution......just pick the parts you like, and ignore the ones you don't...



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Reydelsol


School shooting are perfectly normal and a sign of a healthly, stable society.......



The denial on this thread is amazing.....



What causes a person to want to kill a mass group of people? Does looking at a gun, or a big truck create some kind of insanity to kill?

Statistically I'm not sure how big of a difference 1 to 2 out of 100,000 compared to 3 to 4 out of 100,000 is when we look at a country with 400 million guns compared to ones that made all guns illegal.

Now we take this one step more and show that if we compare UK to Japan, both countries have made gun illegal, we see that gun murder rate in UK is still 4 times that in Japan...Hmmm


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posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 03:13 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Grimmley

God gave us the right to bear arms?
No #?


Who/whatever created us dropped us on a planet full of deadly creatures, but no natural weapons to use. What we were given was a brain that allows us to create weapons.

Us owning whatever weapons are available in the arsenal of human ingenuity seems to be consistent with natural law. Its no different than a cat having claws.


7.62 claws? Or just normal cat claws that they were born with BFFT?

There is a difference...

From the ATS veterinary surgeon...

Kindest respects

Lagomorphe



posted on Feb, 20 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

We were born with a brain as our only weapon. We are physically outclassed by almost every beast on the planet.

So we level the field by using our best weapon....a brain that innovates solutions.




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