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originally posted by: matafuchs
So, in the wake of the latest shooting we have children activists who are already in DC. We have none of the blame on the agencies who dropped the ball. All of the blame is being put on President Trump for allowing it to happen. The media is full on partial truths and flat out lies.
However, the AR-15 according to the anti-gun lobby is the cause of ALL of the terror. If they were banned there would be no more school shootings. This was actually said by a LA reporter and has been parroted in the MSM. Folks, 2 of the largest mass shootings in the US did not use an AR. One of the largest private attacks on a US military base did not use an AR. I looked at the 20 deadliest mass shootings since 1950. This is what I found.
Virginia Tech Shooting - 32 with a pair of Glocks
Pulse Shooting - 50 Sig MCX and a handgun
Ft Hood - 13 with a FN handgun
Washington Navy Yard - 12 with a handgun and a shotgun
Umpqua Community College 9 with a handgun
Lets go back a few decades since the AR had been around for about 50 years....
Luby's - 1991 - 24 with a handgun
Camden shootings - 1949 13 with a handgun
Edmon Postal Office - 1986 - 14 with a handgun
Mass shootings have tripled since 2011. 9 of the 20 above used handguns and in 6 of them multiple weapons were used.
So, when they tell you it is an AR problem it is the first step to take away all of them because if they can stop the sale of something that was not used as much...what will stop them from moving forward for all of them?
originally posted by: Mandroid7
It's the most popular gun.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
It's the most popular gun.
originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: Edumakated
Bullets have no place in innocent children
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
Simple solutions;
Raise age to buy any semi auto to 21. Allow sales to under 21 if gun is safeguarded by a range. If it is to be shot outside of a range then it can be signed out to a sponsoring adult for a specified time period.
Improve our criminal reporting systems and improve background checks. Try to ensure everyone responsible does their job to the fullest so people do not fall in the cracks. Have a speedy appeal process for those who feel a mistake has been made.
Do not allow gun ownership for those on drugs for mental conditions. Make a gun check part of the prescription process for these drugs.
Fund organizations who help kids get their crap together and teach them Life Skills so they have a chance of succeeding in the world.
Create state miilitias to guard against tyranny from the Feds.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
Simple solutions;
Raise age to buy any semi auto to 21. Allow sales to under 21 if gun is safeguarded by a range. If it is to be shot outside of a range then it can be signed out to a sponsoring adult for a specified time period.
Improve our criminal reporting systems and improve background checks. Try to ensure everyone responsible does their job to the fullest so people do not fall in the cracks. Have a speedy appeal process for those who feel a mistake has been made.
Do not allow gun ownership for those on drugs for mental conditions. Make a gun check part of the prescription process for these drugs.
Fund organizations who help kids get their crap together and teach them Life Skills so they have a chance of succeeding in the world.
Create state miilitias to guard against tyranny from the Feds.
That was the point. To show direction. I am not jumping up and down screaming I am sending a warning. I wanted to see what others felt about it which is why I posted it.
The constitutional position is that we have a right, not a privilege, to own a firearm. I think a NCIS database to reference for background checks is good but at the same time I do not think it is right for 'felons' not to be able to buy firearms. What if my felony as bank fraud? It is not a simple argument and there is no common sense solution as the media keeps saying.
State laws do not work either. If a person wants it they will drive to another state and buy a gun at a gun show.