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Or those of us who believe in the NRAs mission statements, the educational programs they support throughout the country, the gun safety standards they emphasis, AND those of us that thoroughly enjoy reading the four monthly journals they publish. Money well spent, just in the subscriptions alone. Of course you’d know this if you ever actually looked into becoming a member...
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: intrptr
US arms manufacturers produce the most arms, shipping them around the world to wage aggressive war.
And who is one of the biggest protectors and defenders of the gun manufacturers?
originally posted by: Wayfarer
a reply to: intrptr
The overwhelming majority of funding for the NRA comes from gun manufacturers.
I think that's pretty telling who they are most beholden too.
According to OpenSecrets, a site that tracks money in politics, the NRA spent $984,152 on campaign contributions during the 2014 election cycle. It also spent more than $3 million on lobbying in both 2013 and 2014.Dec 3, 2015
originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: dfnj2015
I see you siezed on teh first words and went on an emotional rant, so here is a visual aid to help drive the point home that with practice just about any gun can shoot 45 rounds a minute.
Which is why I said by what standard,
factory standard used with no modifications in a sterile setting.
Factory with no modifications in a moving course.
modified (bump stock for example) at a shooting range.
modified in a movement course.
Practice changes all the numbers for each situation, so how will you decide whats to fast?
EDIT: also what about the people that live in places like Montana, or Alaska where wildlife is a serious danger and you decide to limit muzzle velocity so that shot thatwould haveput down a bear now just pisses it off.
Remember we are a nation of nearly 10 million sq kilometers with a wide variety of animal life and terrain, in your rush to "do something" to save some people over here, you could very well be signing a death warrant for people over in another part of the country.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: SocratesJohnson
Blaming the nra for gun problems is like blaming the liquor store for drinking problems.
This is like saying selling alcohol to minors is okay.
Regulations exist for a reason. No one wan'ts to ban or outlaw guns. But why are stinger missiles illegal? Don't you think banning guns capable of shooting 45 rounds per minute might be a good idea. Is it necessary to turn a deer into hamburger while hunting? How many shots in the clip is necessary for personal projection?
Maybe you think stinger missiles should be legal. Regulations exist for a reason. These numbers are sickening:
Maybe it's time for some public policy changes to try to address this issue.
I guess the NRA was being racist when they helped Otis Mcdonald get his gun in the landmark decision Mcdonald vs Chicago? Name one thing the NRA has lobbied for that helped to keep guns out of blacks hands but not whites? Go ahead, I'll wait.....
originally posted by: Blue Shift
The NRA has been relatively powerful since its creation after the Civil War, and is primarily responsible for most of the gun control laws that we have today. It wasn't until they got scared of the Black Panthers in 1968 and threw out their top leadership that they decided to shift their focus from education to lobbying in an effort to keep white people more armed than black people.
It all boils down to racism. Like so many stupid things.