Originally posted by RobertBurns
chebob, just a comment first, I don't think it matters if you believe in Jesus or not, that is an issue with his "divinity" the fact he was a good leader can not be denied by even Atheists.
Originally posted by Seekerof
Robert E. Lee would be my definition of a 'True Leader.' Its a shame he never decided to run for any political office. His 'vision' was admirable. His desire to abolish slavery was as fervent as Abraham Lincoln's.
Originally posted by Mac223
A true leader is someone who:
A. Leads the group, not directing orders from shielding positions.
B. Makes good decisions, wise and fair
C. Works for his people
D. Respects the opinions of his people, listening to what they say.
C. Good Ol' George Washington
D. Abraham Lincoln
There is proof that Jesus DID in fact exist....or so they think.
1) They think they found his tomb writing/urn. Inscribed upon it was: Jesus, son of Joseph, brother of John. Someone calculate the odds..they aren't too bad, but not too great.
2) They THINK they might have found the shroud that he was given on his march to his crucifixion.
3) Other readings/teachings/papers/etc